3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

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3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby BFG in the BRG » Tue 12.05.2009, 21:16

Well after going to Le Touquet last year on a day trip - the BRG is again bracing itself for another ferry crossing to Calais only this time for a 3-day trip :banana:

We thought we might go to the champagne region - (Reims) and back :beer: , this will take us near to Lille and down - 9am from Dover - lunch somewhere in France and then get down to Champagne region for the evening.

TomTom reckons on between 2.30 and 4.30 hours depending on how much is motorway and toll roads and how much is avoiding motorways and tolls.

Any good routes suggested or good places/villages etc to stay - eg. vinyards with accomodation or just good quality BB/DBB

We're fairly open to ideas, really just any good wine regions within reasonable distance of Calais - say up to 6/7 hours drive?
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby mnemonix » Tue 12.05.2009, 22:47

Although I haven't visited Rheims itself - the city might be nice, the drive there isn't hugely interesting, though the stretch between Rheims & Troyes on the Autoroute is even worse! As you say it's all about the champagne round there. When I've travelled round in that direction, it doesn't get interesting for me until Auxerre in the North of Burgundy, where you get the benefit of the Chablis/Petit Chablis to the North and the Pinot Noirs from there on south. Sorry not quite what you wanted to hear, but I've always blasted past Rheims heading south, and for sparkling wine gone for Vouvray in the Loire. Unless you plan on covering some serious milage per day it's going to be tricky to get that far and back up in 3 days though.

That was more of a ramble than I planned, and not terribly helpful, sorry! Laon is a nice little town on the route between Calais & Rheims though, perhaps someone more familiar with the Champagne region will have some suggestions.

As I think about it, your timescale is what lead me to head South from Calais recently down into Normandy. Do you like Cider & Calvados ? Honfleur is a beautiful little ancient port town over the river from Le Havre, close to the Pay D'Auge region for fine Calvados, and in my experience, more picturesque countryside than that around Rheims.

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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby BFG in the BRG » Tue 12.05.2009, 22:59

Thanks mnemonix,
everything is useful - I was tended towards red wines rather than sparkling - (mainly for it's health benefits of course :mrgreen: ) but I guess it might be a bit difficult over 3 days - guess I'll have to make do with great food 8) , champers :lol: and the wind in my hair :banana: well, what's left of it!
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby mnemonix » Tue 12.05.2009, 23:07

Have a great time! I don't know if this is common practice, but we had fun with the Sat Nav in france. Turning off motorways & toll roads, and then turning on 'shortest distance' rather than 'quickest time' had us blasting down single track country lanes and some fantastic driving... of course having covered just a few 10's of miles per hour we had to revert to a more sensible route, but it got us off the beaten track and into the wilds without ever feeling lost for a time!
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby BFG in the BRG » Tue 12.05.2009, 23:13

That was my plan - switch between "avoid motorways and toll" and turning it back on if time was passing too quickly
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby theelanman » Wed 13.05.2009, 00:16

are you fixed to dover/calais and what do you want to do????
I alway like a good drive down to cognac.......
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby nitroman » Wed 13.05.2009, 01:51

BFG in the BRG wrote:Thanks mnemonix,
everything is useful - I was tended towards red wines rather than sparkling - (mainly for it's health benefits of course :mrgreen: ) but I guess it might be a bit difficult over 3 days - guess I'll have to make do with great food 8) , champers :lol: and the wind in my hair :banana: well, what's left of it!

The Burgundy region of France (Chile, and the Finger Lakes region of New York) produces wines high in resveratrol, which activate the so-called sirtuin genes in people, leading to an increased rate of cellular repair. Pinot Noir contains the most resveratrol, as the grapeskins (with resveratrol) are left in the juice for a longer amount of the wine-making process.

The cardiac benefits are the ones always cited, but there are myriad benefits to shifting your body into repair VS reproduce mode.
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby BFG in the BRG » Wed 13.05.2009, 07:56

Quote: "are you fixed to dover/calais and what do you want to do????"

Cruise with the hood down, eat and drink (though not at the same time). With the other car, the eating and drinking would come before the driving :mrgreen: .
Calais is set, one option might be to drive down to Burgundy on the fast roads and poodle back - there again we could poodle there - thereby getting in some wine tasting in Champagne area, Burgundy the next day and then fast roads back......I was just checking I was not missing any wine regions further north/nearer.

It's not for a while yet, when we've done it I'll drop a posting about how we got on, probably won't be blatting it through the countryside :rally: , for me the joy is the hood down and cruising 8) , with the odd bit of turbo, rather than flooring it at every opportunity, (particularly with my beloved in the passenger seat).

Quote "The Burgundy region of France (Chile, and the Finger Lakes region of New York) produces wines high in resveratrol, which activate the so-called sirtuin genes in people, leading to an increased rate of cellular repair. Pinot Noir contains the most resveratrol, as the grapeskins (with resveratrol) are left in the juice for a longer amount of the wine-making process.

The cardiac benefits are the ones always cited, but there are myriad benefits to shifting your body into repair VS reproduce mode."

At last - proof that wine is good for you!
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby M100 TWO » Wed 13.05.2009, 10:11

Epernay is a good place to stay, a cheap hotel is Hotel St Pierre this is a simple 1 star, another Hotel that is really nice is Le Clos Raymi, I have stayed at the Le Clos but not the other one. A must to visit is Hautvillers 7 Km out of Epernay, the Champagne house that I have been too is G. Tribaut in Hautvillers, very reasonably price and they also speak good English.

Two Champagne houses in Epernay that do tours is De Castellane (can't miss it a tall tower, which you can climb) if you like Posters that the place to buy them!!!!, Mercier is another good tour very slick.
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby niall » Wed 13.05.2009, 22:26

A charming and very friendly champagne house which does excellent B&B is at Champagne Jacquemart. It is just South of Rheims.
http://www.ployez-jacquemart.fr/web2/index.asp
We have stayed a couple of times and enjoyed it. It is close enough to go into Rheims for an evening meal if you do not wish to blow out on the Gourmet experience at Jacquemart.
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby BFG in the BRG » Wed 05.08.2009, 07:51

Well in the end we had a 3 day trip to the Loire, P & O Dover-Calais and set the Tomtom on avoid toll roads and headed for Amboise which is northern Loire near Tours and had the advantage of avoiding Paris on a Friday evening.

The route took us accross to Rouen then due south passing the banks of the Seine and heading towards Evereux, Chartres, peeling off just before Tours to arrive at Amboise, passing through villages en-route. French roads are fantastic and easy to drive, tree lined (apparently Nepoleon wanted shade for his troops - so I was told - although quite why he put in so many roundabouts I'll never know :mrgreen: - the French do love their roundabouts), passed endless fields of wheat and occasional sunflower, oilseed rape and barley- the French clearly look after their farmers - which was great to see - our government and the supermarkets could learn a lot from the French.
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1 tank of gas easily did the 300 odd miles from Calais all the way down to Amboise - and filling stations were frequest if we had wanted them - although the price of fuel varies enormously - there is a chain called Elan - which I know lots of people have heard of - which seemed to do the most expensive fuel, whereas supermarkets seemed to be over 20-30% cheaper.

The non-toll option had the advantage of max speed of 110km/h (70 ish) on Dual Carriageways - of which there were few after Rouen, single carriageway roads were 90km/h(55) -which is a great poodling pace (and was reduced to 70 or 50 kmh as we went through villages and towns) rather than the 130 max on the toll roads. With the roof down, 130 (85 ish mph) sustained speed can be a bit uncomfortable if you have hair (like my beloved), besides we wanted a relaxing pace.

Roof down all the way - it was fantastic!

The BRG behaved impeccably - and got loads of admiring looks and even a few comments - we only saw one other Lotus (Elise) on the entire trip, we stayed at the Ibis in Amboise - one of the less exciting hotels I know but being as the weather is so changable this year we wanted to have the option to cancel at the last minute without being charged - we figured we could just head for the sun if it came down to it, it was relatively cheap and the town of Amboise was close by if we had wanted to pop out for a meal.

The following day we had a drive round the local area and looked round the Chateau Chenonceau followed by a late dinner and then drove back the day after having filled up with well over a dozen bottles of wine.

Fantastic break, now planning another trip before Summer ends - probably going to do Le Shuttle this time (well it would be a shame to spend the Tesco vouchers on anything else) so the crossing will cost us £6 plus the vouchers - and poodle off to Belgium or more likley Monet's gardens at Giverny - just outside Paris - tempted as I am to do the Champs Elysee for a giggle I think I'll save that for another trip.
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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby mnemonix » Wed 05.08.2009, 09:19

Glad to hear you had a good trip BFG! Sounds a little like my last trip over, when I ended up at Amboise after staying a night on the Normandy coast.

An alternative to the Ibis in Amboise, if anyone is so minded, is the municipal campsite which is located on an island in the middle of the river opposite the castle. The market by the river on Sunday morning is well worth a visit too for its vast selection of sausgage, cheeses and other local produce. Vouvray is about 10 miles east down the river, famous for its sparkling wine.

If you do visit Belgium, Brugges is a no-brainer, less than 2 hours from Calais, and chocolate-box beautiful. I'm intending to do a trip this year, but head further inland, possibly to the Orval area, as it's one of my favourite Trappist beers!

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Re: 3 Days in France - driving/wine tasting - ideas?

Postby HJ2 » Wed 05.08.2009, 10:35

Drop me a note when you drive near the Netherlands.
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Also a couple of Elan-heads in Belgium too! (www.lotusforum.be)
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