M100 Prices - What do you think?

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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby terry randall » Mon 20.12.2010, 00:28

Only joking Steve about members and their avitars or was it avitars and their members? Anyway, I suspect your an 'avidtar' enthusiast. I was suspicious there must an avitar black market lurking in the club somewhere, but I was failing to pick up on it. Or is it my eyesight that's failing because I can't even see Peckhs old avitar. Are there invisible avatars? I'd need to see the goods before a deal is done. Maybe I could do with a new screensaver? My Emma Peel with her baby elan probably could do with replacing. Maybe there's room for an annual avitar award?
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby Rambo » Mon 20.12.2010, 12:06

steve matthews wrote:You assume the worst 8)
Just because I'm in love with Rip's and again Peckhs old avatar
doesn't mean a thing :P
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What about Timmo's and Pantz's avatars ;-)
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby Specky » Mon 20.12.2010, 12:10

Why would you let her sit on the car....It might damage the clam... :lol:

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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby terry randall » Mon 20.12.2010, 13:06

Thank's Rambo for the visuals--Timmo's avatar is a good example of the wobbly technology the girls are afraid of. However, Pantz's avatar would make an ideal screen saver-- what a way to adorn a lotus badge! But 5kB is too small a file size to be of any use. Is he negotiable for the HD version ?
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby steve matthews » Mon 20.12.2010, 15:27

Gentlemen, I do not see an avatar advancing the retail value of our cars. :evil:
Back on Topic.
However a well placed endowment of (ava) does promote a conceptual thought
process and can in deed add intrinsic value to any product :-D
terry randall wrote:Maybe there's room for an annual avitar award.

I like the idea of Avatar awards.
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby Rambo » Wed 22.12.2010, 10:14

Buckaroo wrote:Price is not ONLY a function of scarcity.

Those who believe that a 'thinning out' of Elan numbers, with the disappearance of the tattier examples to be broken, will inevitably lead to price increases MAY be disappointed.

Basic economics teaches us that price is a function of both supply (scarcity) but also of demand. And demand will not necessarily remain constant. The Elan remains competitive and desirable today, though it may become relatively less attractive as newer second hand Elises, SLKs, TTs and the like drop in price.

Moreover, the fact that there are still a reasonable number of Elans on the road means that Lotus can still (just about) be arsed to bother to support the car, and it means that their are a reasonable number of spares, and a decent sized community of owners that can support Group Buys and the like.

Once the number of Elans on the road dips below a certain level, all of this will become more problematic, and the car will become less easy to own, less desirable, and demand will be suppressed.

And with lower demand will come lower prices.

MGB prices have fallen from their peak for just these reasons.

Personally, I would think that Elan prices will adjust upwards slightly once the recession ends, and as more people are willing to part with their hard-earned for summer toys, but I don't think that any of us are holding on to future classics in the mould of the DB5 or E-type. Scarcity alone does not guarantee high prices. There are hardly any Vivas, Hunters and Allegros left, yet they are worth nothing, and Rover P4s and the like are Banger raced despite their scarcity.

And unless a practical, economical easy fix is found to the problem of corrosion within the tub, the Elan may be entering its twilight years anyway!

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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby terry randall » Wed 22.12.2010, 10:50

Dear 'Sherlock' Rambo,
this is all very intriguing. Do you think you've flushed something out? My goodness, you have been paying attention!
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby Rambo » Wed 22.12.2010, 13:17

Call me a cynic, but I wonder if Buckaroo is an aviation journalist in his spare time ;-)
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby steve matthews » Wed 22.12.2010, 14:51

Is it Buckaroo Bonsai?
Or Bonsai Buckaroo :wink:

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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby esprit888 » Wed 22.12.2010, 20:24

Rambo wrote:Call me a cynic, but I wonder if Buckaroo is an aviation journalist in his spare time ;-)


:agree: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby terry randall » Thu 23.12.2010, 00:59

Well, enough of this seasonal frivolity, perhaps it time to put this thread to bed for Christmas. Among other things, there seems to have been a genuine concern for bodies ( elan ones as well!) and it would be a great result if someone(s) would summarise what the vulnerable body areas are and how to look for them. ( available as download for members on request). Even better if next year come warmer weather they could use a car or two to practically show others where and how to look for trouble spots. ( I would try to arrange a suitable venue to do my bit. ) Sorry, America and Australia out of the question! Anyone out there offering?
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby terry randall » Thu 23.12.2010, 10:51

P.S. Did the Bucking Horse take to the hills or was he shot ? R.I.P.
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Re: M100 Prices - What do you think?

Postby Dave Eds » Thu 23.12.2010, 12:04

terry randall wrote: perhaps it time to put this thread to bed for Christmas.



At thread originators suggestion, this going nowhere topic is now put to bed.
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