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Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sat 02.12.2017, 14:00

anyone selling a Cat for a series 1 SE?
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sat 02.12.2017, 15:29

They have been on the sell-down list at Lotus for a long time: F100S0024F £170.51

I can confirm they fit properly on a FED model. If you order from a Lotus Dealer near you in Germany, there should be no shipping to you as you can then collect it in person.

You probably need Downpipe B100S0061F which is £22.60

The DeRoure page with links is https://www.deroure.com/diagrams.asp?MA ... T=100S0024
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 03.12.2017, 08:55

Brit-Car-Nut wrote:They have been on the sell-down list at Lotus for a long time: F100S0024F £170.51

I can confirm they fit properly on a FED model. If you order from a Lotus Dealer near you in Germany, there should be no shipping to you as you can then collect it in person.

You probably need Downpipe B100S0061F which is £22.60

The DeRoure page with links is https://www.deroure.com/diagrams.asp?MA ... T=100S0024


Thanks is 170 the mark down price?
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby lotustonybassplayer » Sun 03.12.2017, 10:18

There is a listing on eBay for new cats £115 each :D
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Rambo » Sun 03.12.2017, 10:37

??? Cat for series one SE. What year SE do you have Texas ? It must be a very late one ??
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Fredjohn » Sun 03.12.2017, 11:33

Rambo wrote:??? Cat for series one SE. What year SE do you have Texas ? It must be a very late one ??



Mark: unless I have misunderstood this thread and his others, texas2201 didn't have a cat on his car originally, but possibly does need to fit one to get it through German TUV (MOT) requirements. According to one post, Germany introduced cats on all new build from 1989, which would mean any Elans sold in Germany would have to have one fitted ex-factory.

The price of taking his UK Elan to Germany permanently seems to be escalating beyond economic sense, but then whoever bought a Lotus to be sensible? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 03.12.2017, 14:23

texas2201 wrote:
Brit-Car-Nut wrote:They have been on the sell-down list at Lotus for a long time: F100S0024F £170.51

I can confirm they fit properly on a FED model. If you order from a Lotus Dealer near you in Germany, there should be no shipping to you as you can then collect it in person.

You will probably need Downpipe B100S0061F which is £22.60

The DeRoure page with links is https://www.deroure.com/diagrams.asp?MA ... T=100S0024


Thanks is 170 the mark down price?


Yes. It was £217.19 in 2015, down to £129.17 in 2016, but Lotus has been increasing all of their prices every 3 months or so. That is all the history I have.

The lowest cost one on eBay UK is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RSJBM90324-Ex ... 2732337264 and is 95.85 but it is an aftermarket replacement.

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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Rambo » Sun 03.12.2017, 14:41

Fredjohn wrote:
Rambo wrote:??? Cat for series one SE. What year SE do you have Texas ? It must be a very late one ??



Mark: unless I have misunderstood this thread and his others, texas2201 didn't have a cat on his car originally, but possibly does need to fit one to get it through German TUV (MOT) requirements. According to one post, Germany introduced cats on all new build from 1989, which would mean any Elans sold in Germany would have to have one fitted ex-factory.

The price of taking his UK Elan to Germany permanently seems to be escalating beyond economic sense, but then whoever bought a Lotus to be sensible? :lol: :lol:


Aaaaah, I see. Hadn't seen the "TUV in Germany" topic. Makes sense now. I think :smt017
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 03.12.2017, 14:46

Thanks for finding that - you are most kind - I don't care if it is aftermarket :-) Do you have the link to the latest Lotus parts list? found it :-)
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 03.12.2017, 15:10

texas2201 wrote:Thanks for finding that - you are most kind - I don't care if it is aftermarket :-) Do you have the link to the latest Lotus parts list?

Lotus doesn't publish their parts prices but I usually get a copy of the huge spreadsheet when they send dealers a new one.

DeRoure has always been current with the prices, so you can type in the part number in the search box and open the page to get the price or notice that the part has been discontinued:

http://www.deroure.com/

The different parts lists can be found on my web page: www.lotusm100.com/manuals

The V.# helps to identify the vintage, ie V.2 is the oldest and does not have a linked index, V.6 is newer and has chapter bookmarks, V.8 is the newest and also has bookmarks. V.7 is a pretty poor copy but it has extra pages and notes added that help identify substitutions and individual components of items Lotus only sold as assemblies (like the ignition coils with the ICM and some breakdown of injector components for example).

Find the part number in the parts lists, then go to DeRoure and get the current MSRP.
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 03.12.2017, 16:33

Fredjohn wrote:
Rambo wrote:??? Cat for series one SE. What year SE do you have Texas ? It must be a very late one ??



Mark: unless I have misunderstood this thread and his others, texas2201 didn't have a cat on his car originally, but possibly does need to fit one to get it through German TUV (MOT) requirements. According to one post, Germany introduced cats on all new build from 1989, which would mean any Elans sold in Germany would have to have one fitted ex-factory.

The price of taking his UK Elan to Germany permanently seems to be escalating beyond economic sense, but then whoever bought a Lotus to be sensible? :lol: :lol:


Correct and the pain just keeps getting worse :-( and now I probably need to buy winter tyres for it.......... arghhh
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby alan e » Sun 03.12.2017, 19:34

Save money and move to the UK. :D
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Bern » Sun 03.12.2017, 19:43

My Elan spent some time in Germany, it must have been a while as it had to be re-registered when it came back to the UK (so it must've changed to German plates?). It has no CAT. (I only know that form looking through the docs that came with it)

Also, AFAIK, the spec for cars should be standard across the EU, if it didn't need a cat in the UK when it was new it shouldn't need one for Germany. Unless it's some retrospective thing they've applied, but that seems unlikely as a lot of cars of that age still had carbs and no electronic control which would make running a CAT difficult.
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 03.12.2017, 20:30

Bern wrote:My Elan spent some time in Germany, it must have been a while as it had to be re-registered when it came back to the UK (so it must've changed to German plates?). It has no CAT. (I only know that form looking through the docs that came with it)

Also, AFAIK, the spec for cars should be standard across the EU, if it didn't need a cat in the UK when it was new it shouldn't need one for Germany. Unless it's some retrospective thing they've applied, but that seems unlikely as a lot of cars of that age still had carbs and no electronic control which would make running a CAT difficult.


cheers Bern - TUV are looking for emissions values which are only available for cars with a cat - I have asked them the question and I am awaiting their response - possibly your car was on a special technical TUV
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 03.12.2017, 20:31

alan e wrote:Save money and move to the UK. :D


I used to live in the UK and the car still lives there most of the time
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby Rambo » Sun 03.12.2017, 20:46

The answer to your problems is in your reply

Get it taxed and MOT'd over here and take it to Merkeland as and when required

Job done :smt023
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby alan e » Sun 03.12.2017, 20:59

:agree:
Rambo wrote:The answer to your problems is in your reply

Get it taxed and MOT'd over here and take it to Merkeland as and when required

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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 03.12.2017, 21:51

alan e wrote::agree:
Rambo wrote:The answer to your problems is in your reply

Get it taxed and MOT'd over here and take it to Merkeland as and when required

Job done :smt023


Normally that is the situation - but I brought it out for a few weeks - hit a deer - discovered I had let the MOT run out at the end of Aug!!!! and the Ins Co are saying I need to get a German Roadworthy cert... a TUV hence all the pain
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Mon 04.12.2017, 17:55

Looks like I don't need this as TUV said they will accept the paperwork from Lotus :-) fingers cross that this is the case and that something has not been lost in translation
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Re: Cat for series one SE needed

Postby texas2201 » Sun 10.12.2017, 13:06

so brakes sorted - new rear caliper hardware kit ordered - winter project number XX. Headlights and pod delay relay sorted, rear chassis and vin number rubbed down so it is legible, Lotus paperwork arrived, drop link fitted.....so in theory all good for the re-TUV - so will make an appointment tomorrow. However, two inches of snow and summer tyres could be a problem.

UK Insurer Engineer talking to German Ins Assessor and say the claim will be settled next week :-)
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