So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Rambo » Tue 15.05.2018, 21:16

Rambo wrote:The Yellow Peril sailed through it's recent MOT with no failures or advisories. 123,500 miles and counting :burnout:

It's the Black Beast next week


The Black Beast also got through the MOT with no failures or advisories. Very low emissions as per normal - 0.24% CO (max = 3.5%) and HC's 263 ppm (max = 1200 ppm)

55,193 miles and counting :burnout:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Saltire » Tue 15.05.2018, 22:34

lotusflasherman wrote:See you at 'Combe but don't see how new regs will affect a M100 Elan... unless it''s a diesel :lol:
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My Elan+2S becomes exempt... No Road Tax, No MOT test fee, £85 per year Classic Insurance... :bananasex:


That’s the ones. The bit that worries me is that - at the testers discretion - he/she can classify a fault as ‘dangerous’. Which means you’re not allowed to take the car away from the MoT station; you have to leave it there for them to fix. Not sure I want to do that. And who decides what constitutes a dangerous fault? A blown headlamp bulb’s pretty dangerous if I want to do a 200 mile night drive, and probably not otherwise. Licence for the unscrupulous tester to print money?

I’ll just have to wait another 17 years till the Elan becomes MoT exempt :twisted:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Giniw » Wed 16.05.2018, 01:30

Here in France we have a similar new MOT too, but the car cannot be kept by the tester, the worst that can happen is that you have to repair in the next 24 hours(!) or then you are not allowed to drive the car until it's fixed.
As I understand it's a EU rule, won't you get rid of that new MOT after the Brexit is effective?
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Saltire » Wed 16.05.2018, 07:14

That’s how it used to be here. Under the existing rules, you can drive the car a reasonable distance to a place where repairs will be undertaken. From Sunday, as I understand it, if it fails with a “dangerous fault”, you won’t be able to drive it away from the garage. And that means the company which does the MoT has an interest in recording faults as dangerous, because that way they make money from fixing the fault. Unless, presumably, you hire a trailer and take your car away on that

And no, I don’t think things will change once we leave the EU :lol:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby dapinky » Wed 16.05.2018, 11:35

I am a bit confused as to why the UK government has adopted the 'EU' rules for this bit of the testing requirements - - but not the bit where they say testing should be done every 2 years..... Cash cow springs to mind.

Jonathan, I don't think they can physically prevent you from driving the car away (that would not be legal), but you won't have much of an arguement if you get involved in a crash 100 miles away without getting it fixed and re-tested. A local trip home (to a place of repair) isn't a big issue {I hope}.

(oh, and my Triumph is now a real bargain to own - free tax, no MOT and £45 insurance).
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 16.05.2018, 17:05

Saltire wrote:The bit that worries me is that - at the testers discretion - he/she can classify a fault as ‘dangerous’


What makes you think it's at the tester's discretion? It's always been laid down in detail by DOT/DVSA ... https://www.gov.uk/topic/mot/manuals
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Wed 16.05.2018, 17:12

I am sure there are a few less than honorable techs that could interpret some obscure rule to block passing.

Usually, owners are getting tested BEFORE the certification has run out, so they should not be able to do anything except fail a car. Impounding a car is a serious matter and could be considered to outright theft.
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 16.05.2018, 17:45

John, there is also an appeal process in UK. I had a Tester blindly following a flow chart about 'Body Integrity' worried about 'cracks under the body' at the front of my Eclat due to hitting a badger a few days before. He said it was a "Fail" by his Guidelines, I said it's got a separate chassis, not structural, so doesn't apply - give me an Appeal Form. He then made a phone call or two and I got a Pass Certificate. He excuse was 'have to follow guidelines, need permission not to'.
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Saltire » Wed 16.05.2018, 18:05

Anyway, it passed! CO 0.000; HC 7; Lambda 1.023. First two well within limits; Lambda is approaching the upper limit of 1.030. How concerned should I be (and no, I haven’t had a chance to run an ElanScan yet)?

Two advisories: corrosion affecting n/s and o/s rear lower suspension mounting points - I’m intending to have that sorted out next Autumn, as part of a brakes and suspension rebuild.

And the inoperative horn was simple. When I tested it after having the dashboard out, I didn’t refit the steering column cowl, and it worked fine. In fitting the cowl, I had accidentally snagged the horn cable, so there was no free movement in it, and it wasn’t allowing the contact to spring back fully and connect with the back of the steering wheel. Took a while to find, but simple to fix. Who’s a numpty? :bonk:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Rambo » Wed 16.05.2018, 21:27

Jonathan - are you saying your CO was zero ? I thought that was impossible ?? And your HC's were only 7 ppm. Was the engine turned on ? :twisted:

And I thought the Black Beast was good :?
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 16.05.2018, 21:57

Rambo wrote:Jonathan - are you saying your CO was zero ? I thought that was impossible ?? And your HC's were only 7 ppm. Was the engine turned on ? :twisted:

And I thought the Black Beast was good :?


:agree: Seems strange... zero CO means you couldn't commit suicide with the 'hosepipe trick' even if you wanted to... always want a bit of CO, just in case I get fed up.. :lol:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Saltire » Wed 16.05.2018, 22:47

Rambo wrote:Jonathan - are you saying your CO was zero ? I thought that was impossible ?? And your HC's were only 7 ppm. Was the engine turned on ? :twisted:

And I thought the Black Beast was good :?


I’ll check the paperwork again in the morning - can’t be bothered to put down this glass of Bunnahabhain just now. But I’m fairly sure I transcribed the correctly. That’s what you get from having a catalyst, y’see :lol:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Saltire » Thu 17.05.2018, 17:13

And here's the Sun report. Maybe you're right, Rambo - didn't turn the engine on :lol:
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby RonR » Mon 25.06.2018, 15:46

Passed MOT today with no advisories :cheers:

The tester must have M100 experience as he was surprised that the handbrake passed "under it's own steam".
My Sunday spent cleaning, bleeding and adjusting the rear brakes and handbrake was worth it!

CO: 1.002% - up from last year's 0.764%
HC: 108 ppm - Last year 103 ppm

These results on an SE running closed loop with 2¼" PNM exhaust, extra silencer and no pre or post cats.

Update: Just got back from a short celebratory drive, parked up and noticed coolant dripping from somewhere around the bottom hose :banghead:
With any luck it'll be a loose hose clamp or split hose, if not I'll be looking to get a Coolex replacement radiator.
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby lotustonybassplayer » Mon 25.06.2018, 18:58

Passed today .handbrake good, my freeing off and nicely lubed sliders paying dividends , a slight imbalance with foot brake on rears so work on the proportioning valves to come ! CO .92 HC 114 ppm. Se running closed loop :-D
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby epipete » Tue 17.07.2018, 07:13

Returning from 30 months in Sunny Cyprus, I booked the car in to Malmesbury Specialist Cars for its MoT yesterday.

Passed with a couple of advisories:

Intermittent Fault in the Hazards. Fortunately I have a spare witch currently on a boat somewhere.
Rear NS Wheel bearing on the limit. (Maybe Cypriot dust gets everywhere.

Otherwise all is good.

Any advice on where to obtain Wheel bearings, I couldn't find owt on a search and the Wiki gives me a '404 page not found'?
SJS stock them for a tenner but is there a type I can not to Halfords for?
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Fredjohn » Tue 17.07.2018, 07:48

Pete hi and welcome home. Thanks for bringing the warm weather with you.

Not sure I understand your comment re WikiLEC as there is plenty of info re wheel bearings and no links to follow to get it.

Quote: SKF VBKA 529: following
kit will fit the Elan and is available from most motor factors, priced £7.50 each (19/1/2008):

VW Jetta GL 1985-1998

VW Golf 1984-1992 (MK1), 1992-1998 (MK3)

However, the oil seal that comes with this kit is not the correct one.


The following oil seal is required:

GM part number 90217059 priced £9.52 each from Vauxhall dealer (19/1/2008)

or

Vauxhall Corsa 1983-1993 rear wheel bearing kit priced £7 each from local motor factors (19/1/2008)
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby Fredjohn » Tue 17.07.2018, 07:53

PS why do you need a spare witch? Most people don't even have one! :D :D
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby dapinky » Tue 17.07.2018, 08:12

Pete,

I agree with the above - if you need a spare witch whilst you wait for your's I'll send my ex-wife up in a parcel for you......

(but in the meantime, the rear wheel bearings are adjustable and probably just need to be wound up a bit. Simple job, remove wheel (car in the air!) - prise off the big metal dust cap - clean the old grease out of the way - remove split pin - adjust nut a bit - replace split pin - chuck some grease in - replace metal cap - put wheel back on.)
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Re: So....how did the M.O.T go? (or overseas equivalent)

Postby simonbuk » Tue 17.07.2018, 08:21

RonR wrote:These results on an SE running closed loop with 2¼" PNM exhaust, extra silencer and no pre or post cats.


It has not cats in it ? How on earth does that pass the emissions tests ?!

I can't get mine through the MOT with a sports cat on it :bonk:
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