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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Rusty Wishbone » Mon 27.03.2017, 22:53

McLaren surely don't need Alonso now. They have bigger things to worry about. But Williams need Stroll for the mountain of cash he delivers every time he turns up at the factory. Surely Williams would be better kicking out slowcoach Massa and installing Alonso for the rest of the season.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby clemo » Tue 28.03.2017, 08:55

Massa is not slow Stroll is .
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby rip » Tue 28.03.2017, 13:26

:agree:
Teams usually don't like 2 rookies because experienced drivers are usually more consistent. Massa's 6th was as good as could be expected considering the cars in front of him.
He is also supposed to be good at feeding back handling information to the team, which is a very useful characteristic.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Saltire » Tue 28.03.2017, 17:39

:agree:

And for all practical purposes, Williams can't have two rookies, because (AIUI) the Martini contract requires them to have at least one driver over the age of 25.

Interesting times for Alonso.
    - Will Massa stay beyond the end of the season, or will he re-retire?
    - If it's true that Bottas is only on a one year contract, will there be a spare seat at Mercedes?
    - And would Toto Wolff dare, given the friction between Hamilton and Alonso in their McLaren days?
    - And finally, does Toto still have his shareholding in Williams?
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Rob P » Tue 28.03.2017, 19:47

Didn't Alonso go to McLaren because he wanted to be with a team which was a manufacturer with their own engine, that surely rules out any move to Williams.
I'd like to think he had the guts to ride out the current storm, Honda will get there in the end they just need to be realistic and bring in some expertise to help them along the way
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Rusty Wishbone » Tue 28.03.2017, 22:19

Saltire wrote:And finally, does Toto still have his shareholding in Williams?[/list]


I'm sure that I read somewhere that Toto sold his shareholding in Williams.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby rip » Wed 29.03.2017, 14:50

Rob P wrote:Didn't Alonso go to McLaren because he wanted to be with a team which was a manufacturer with their own engine, that surely rules out any move to Williams.

That sounds familiar & I am sure Ron Dennis won his signature on the strength that 'Honda will get there'.
It is unusual for a customer to out-perform a factory team although Red Bull managed it using a Renault engine.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Rob P » Wed 29.03.2017, 17:06

rip wrote:
Rob P wrote:Didn't Alonso go to McLaren because he wanted to be with a team which was a manufacturer with their own engine, that surely rules out any move to Williams.

That sounds familiar & I am sure Ron Dennis won his signature on the strength that 'Honda will get there'.
It is unusual for a customer to out-perform a factory team although Red Bull managed it using a Renault engine.

Think that is the Adrian Newey effect, designer of some really excellent machinery :-)
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby lotusflasherman » Sat 20.05.2017, 14:31

Lot of F1 journalists reporting on Alonso in practice for Indy 500, which he's only doing because the McLaren Honda is so useless (again) this year.

I see he was 4th fastest yesterday, on 'Fast Friday', so called because they are allowed to run extra boost (our Everest Chip Day? :lol: ). He did 38.822 so 231.827 mph average and only 0.3 seconds behind was Graham Rahal, son of winner Bobby Rahal, but that only got him 22nd place, even though his was 230.007 mph average.

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but ahead of Graham Rahal with an average speed of 230.103mph was Pippa Mann. :wtf: Anybody heard of her ???

My local paper featured her as a 'local interest' item last month ....www.eadt.co.uk/sport/suffolk-raised-pippa-mann-confirmed-for-sixth-indy-500-1-4964656, otherwise I'm sure I wouldn't have either ...
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