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"Gold Standard" NHS? Absolutely brilliant!

Postby inkitin » Thu 08.03.2012, 22:43

Last Sunday evening, I started to have chest tightness/pains, not severe pains but enough to be a little uncomfortable. Later in the evening I started feeling quite unwell and the pains increased in intensity as well as extending down into my left arm. At 9pm I asked my wife to ring the Doctor, as I thought I might be having a heart attack. Wisely, my wife ignored my request and dialled 999 instead! :clap:

Within three minutes a fast response paramedic was with me and 5 minutes later an ambulance arrived, crewed by another paramedic and driver. They obviously decided I was actually going through a heart attack and loaded me into their ambulance, wired me up to an ECG, injected me with some jollop and set off with blue lights and sirens going full blast. They explained that I was not being taken to the nearest A&E but to the specialist Cardiac Response Unit at Manchester Royal Infirmary (As I now know, this is the implementation of what they call "Gold Standard" cardiac treatment).

Arrived MRI at around 10pm and within a quarter of an hour I was in the operating theatre having two stents inserted into my Lower Anterior Descending artery. I was fully awake and simply had a local anaesthetic in my wrist. The chest pain disappeared before I even left the operating theatre and by 11:30pm I was recovering in my bed, in the Coronary Care Unit. I found out afterwards that the entire operating team (about eight in all) had been "on call" at home and had rushed in to the hospital to sort me out!! :bowdown:

Three days of being cared for and monitored in the Coronary unit at MRI and I was discharged on Wednesday afternoon. Due entirely to this "Gold Standard" treatment, a scan of my heart has shown only a small amount of damage has been done. Phew!! :D

I'm now off work for a minimum of four weeks and also cannot drive for four weeks. The driving restriction is a bit of a bugger but in the circumstances it's a very small price to pay.

It's an experience I would obviously have preferred not to have gone through but everybody from the paramedics, the operating staff, through to the ward staff were just fantastic. Without exception they were professional, caring, skilled and extremely hard working. A massive thank you goes to them all from me.
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Postby GeoffSmith » Thu 08.03.2012, 23:15

But why didn't you phone NHS Direct? ;)

Seriously, it's good to hear you got fast treatment and that the damage is minimal - take it easy and hope you make a full recovery.
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Postby DavidEJM » Thu 08.03.2012, 23:21

Theres a lot of bad press about the NHS but I have to say my personal experience and that of others close to me has (thankfully) always been excellent.

Take time to recover and enjoy your new lease of life.
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Postby Monty » Thu 08.03.2012, 23:49

Bloody hell :shock:


Roland, glad your still here to tell the tale :wink:
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Postby Dave Eds » Fri 09.03.2012, 00:08

Jeez - good to hear you're ok Roland. :)
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Postby Steve A » Fri 09.03.2012, 00:18

Glad to see your on the mend Roland :wink:
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Postby chris.t » Fri 09.03.2012, 00:24

Blimey oh Riley, good to hear your on the way to recovery Roland. In my experience its the management of the NHS that gives it a bad name. I could go on and on about the totally inefficient bureaucracy that i have encountered but for the staff at the pointy end I have nothing but praise.

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Postby whippit » Fri 09.03.2012, 00:37

Bloody hell mr roland good to know your ok,
a neighbour of mine just had the same symptoms as yours, ambulance called out rushed in to hospital an hour later she was discharged an was told it was angina,
Three days later still the same symptoms but now looking like death I called a GP out and she was told its acid reflux, take these tablets and call me if its gets worse,

that night she once again had to call an ambulance out and luckily the paramedic picked up on the obvious symptoms and she was rushed to a different hospital
two stent's later her pain disappeared, both the local trust hospitals are useless as are the GP's, my dog gets better treatment at a vets,

its a post code lottery around here,
Good to know theres some good hospitals out there and you received the care you needed.
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Postby Stef » Fri 09.03.2012, 08:45

Good to hear you are all ok matey.

And positivity from a bad situation, refreshing. Thanks for sharing!
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Postby Rambo » Fri 09.03.2012, 10:32

I also have nothing but praise for the NHS after a total hip replacement last year. As Chris says, it's the management that gives it a bad name - the nurses, doctors, paramedics, specialists, anaesthetists, ancilliary workers, although overworked and understaffed, do an excellent job.

Good luck with the recovery process Roland. Do exactly what the doctors and dieticians recommend, take it easy and don't rush back into things.

And remember your wife and guardian angel. Without her help and intervention you could be 6 feet under.....a very sobering thought
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Postby RayD » Fri 09.03.2012, 10:35

Very pleased you’re OK Roland, look after yourself,

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Postby woody » Fri 09.03.2012, 11:10

Glad to hear you are ok now Roland, it must be a very stressful job as an Estimator.
I had exactly the same expierience 10 years ago,without the need for surgery thank God, but . I have nothing but praise for the treatment, and the speed with which the NHS reacted when I called an Ambulance.
Keep taking the Pills,and you should be ok from now on.
The downside to having an episode like this one, is that your Travel Insurance premiums will probably now rocket up in price.
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Postby inkitin » Fri 09.03.2012, 12:21

Many thanks for all the good wishes. :-)

Monty wrote:glad your still here to tell the tale :wink:

Me too.. 8) :lol:

chris.t wrote:you'll be back in the Elan before you know it :P

I certainly hope so.. :burnout:


Rambo wrote:And remember your wife and guardian angel. Without her help and intervention you could be 6 feet under.....a very sobering thought

You're absolutely right, she's a "diamond" and no mistake! :smt061

woody wrote:Glad to hear you are ok now Roland, it must be a very stressful job as an Estimator.

Yes, you're right, well remembered Woody! I'm of a certain age now as well as having the time to decide what my future should be. Stress doesn't currently figure in my plans! :asleep: :wink:
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Postby woody » Fri 09.03.2012, 13:10

Roland wrote
(Yes, you're right, well remembered Woody! I'm of a certain age now as well as having the time to decide what my future should be. Stress doesn't currently figure in my plans!)


But Roland think of the money you will be giving up if you retire early !
It go's against the Estimator's code to give up any potential money coming in, and besides we thrive on hard work, it keeps us going.
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Postby dapinky » Fri 09.03.2012, 13:33

Glad yer okay, you old bugger!

From my experience of NHS, both as a customer, a casual observer, someone who reads (and generally disregards) the press, and as someone who works with them on ocassion I feel (un)qualified to give a personal opinion :-D

In essence, I aggree with everyone else on here about their efficiency.

It seems that 'Emergency Care' is second to none, from the moment you call for an Ambulance (or a cop car if they are all busy) you are in safe hands. The staff at A&E are dedicated and well equipped (but better not to go in October and April, as thats when the newly qualified "Doctors" first start their 6-month rotation :D ).

After that, you get onto a ward where you'll be lucky to get half the nursing / housekeeping staff they need, but they keep on going and still get the work done - sometimes with a smile, and rarely with time for a proper break.

The problems in the 'system' appear to be elsewhere, ie 'non-emergency' stuff, and i don';t really think it is ever going to get fixed because it relies on the general publics' co-operation, and they are the most un-reliable people i meet (if they turn up :roll: )

If i want to see my GP I can book an appointment on the interweb (3 weeks away) or on the phone after 0800, but only for that day. This is great for those times when you wake up feeling a bit duff, but not if you soldier on past 0800 and come lunch time feel that you need the quack - they'll be out of appointments for today, and can't give you one for tommorow, as you can only get ones for the same day :? Also, if you decide to have a couple of days off work, self-certificated, then after a week need a sicknote, you've got no chance, other than to take up an 'emergency' appointment by phoning in before 0800.

Alternatively, if i wanted to see my own GP (as opposed to one of the others who don't know me), I'd just phone him at home, or drop in to see him - that's the benefit of having a clever mate at school who always said he was going to be a doctor!

Now, when the surgery was smaller, it had 2 docs and a lady on reception who made the tea, ran the hoover round and generally ran the place, but didn't see herself as important.

Now there is a practice manager, 3 receptionists (sorry 'Administration Executives'), a cleaning team and who knows what else, but i don't know what they do....
The appointments are made on t'web, or phone before 0800. You turn up and book-in on a computer screen in the entrance, sit down and watch TV until half an hour past your alloted time, then the nurse or Doctor you're to see come and fetch you. In the meantime, the office staff are doing something important behind security glass and away from anywhere where they may have to talk to anyone.
The medical staff do all your notes on a 'puter at the time, and any paperwork (not much) is printed at the time. My repeat prescriptions magically go to the pharmacy and i just collect my tablets every 3 months and give them some money - this seems to surprise the pharmacy staff, as they don't seem to expect anyone to actually have to pay for prescription items, and in fairness, WsM is mainly made up of old people who get it free, Drug Addicts who get it free, Unemployed people who get it free, children who get it free, and working people who (generally) are in good enough health to not need it.

(I'm not bitter about this though, I strongly believe that the young and the elderly should get health care, and more, fully funded - as for the alcoholics and druggies, thats another story).

GP's don't get long enough to always make a reliable decision, and insufficient continuity to keep an eye on it - years ago, your GP would have been the one to come and see you at home, now you phone up, get an appointment with a locum, then follow-up visits with a different GP, home visists from a community nurse etc etc - all of whom i have every sympathy with, and all of whom are trying their best, against a system seeking efficiency.

Last night i was at A&E with one of our customers who had a 'head injury' and couldn't be detained until a doctor said it was okay...... (he had dropped a nut on his girlfriend and smashed her face in, but he was the one we took to A&E, whilst she was expected to make her own way there :roll: ).
Anyway, we got in a queue, and sat drinking tea whilst the clinical staff did their stff - with deserving cases, not our whinging git. One of these was a guy in his 60's (like you Roland, if you're still reading), who had tried to see his GP for a throat problem, and had been 'sorted out' with ibuprofen tablets and sent home. On the night time, his wife had woken up 'coz of his heavy snoring, decided he looked unwell, his throat was heavilly swolen and he couldn't breath. Ambulance attended, no respiration, no heart output, loads of hard work done, all to no avail :(

When i slipped a disc i was on an 'urgent' list for an mRI scan - after 3 months of waiting my work said they'd pay for it (only £400 or so, whats that compared to 3 months sickpay for me, but they had to wait for the NHS for 12 weeks!). 2 days later i went to the same place, and saw the same staff as the NHS use - it appears that the owners of the million quid plus machine would rather use private money than no money, so only make it availlable to the NHS for 'emergency' use - much different to my 'urgent' need, so everyone knew it would never happen until someone paid for it. If I'd been told that at the beginning, I'd have paid for it myself after a couple of weeks, but i kept getting letters telling me when my projected 'slot' would be (6 months hence, unless they get a cancellation).

Also, it appears that only about 20% of people actually turn up for outpatient appointments, and of the other 75%, many don't cancel, so the staff are kept waiting about, when someone else could have had the slot. WGH now have a system that they don't give specific times, you get there first thing, then wait in a queue - that way, they can deal with those who turn up, and try and get others in.

It is things like this that need a decent administration team, but i suspect, much like any other 'business' it gets someone on minimum wage trying their best to contact people, whilst they have 3 supervisors and a manager discussing why one girl isn't getting 3 alcoholics to go back to the fracture clinic even though the 'patient' cant remember falling over pished and breaking their arm. :banghead:

Bloody hell, have i ranted on that much.......



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Postby rip » Fri 09.03.2012, 15:11

Glad you're ok, Roland.
Sounds like their efforts saved you from far more severe consequences.
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Postby epipete » Fri 09.03.2012, 15:52

Good on you Roland, best wishes.

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Postby mikeydude » Sat 10.03.2012, 18:56

Best wishes mate..not been on for ages so did not see this :cheers:
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Postby mikeydude » Sat 10.03.2012, 18:57

Best wishes mate..not been on for ages so did not see this :cheers:

Unfortunately a recent event destroyed my faith in the NHS......

My dad was playing table tennis when one of the guys in the team collapsed.
My dad did his best to attend to the chap whilst the ambulance was called.

these paramedics arrived and these "so called experts" seemed to mess about and take ages without doing anything to assist.
Finally, they produced a defibrillator, tried to use it, then one of them whispered to the other that the battery was flat!
They then seemed to "pretend to be using it" though it was obvious it was not working eventually they carted the guy into the ambulance!
Needless to say the poor chap died.
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Postby mnemonix » Mon 12.03.2012, 08:58

Glad to hear you're ok & best wishes for a speedy recovery Roland.

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