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Starter motor removal

Postby M100TURBOFR » Fri 08.11.2019, 18:52

Hi
I truly think my solenoid is sticking/jammed. On trying to start it just clicks and engine does not fire up. So I've decided to take starter motor out in order to repair.
However, cannot for the life of me locate the top starter motor bolt. Whereabouts is it, as I can't feel it at all. And what key (14mm), socket, or ingenious tool can one use to access said bolt.

Another point: Could a faulty solenoid cause the engine tell-tale light to stay on once the engine starts and runs? The engine runs fine but light stays on. At least it did until the solenoid appears to have stuck.

Would appreciate an answer.
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby Rambo » Fri 08.11.2019, 19:51

Bonsoir David - I'm away from my tablet and WSM at the moment and on a mobile so can't access much but have you read this ? There is some info about the upper top bolt from one of our LEC members (Candles)

http://wikilec.com/view/Starter_motor

Hope it is of some help ?
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby M100TURBOFR » Fri 08.11.2019, 20:30

Rambo Hi
Many thanks for the link. It looks like I'll need a ratchet-type spanner. If only I could locate the bolt!!!
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby Simon_P » Fri 08.11.2019, 21:21

Hi David,

There's good news (maybe) and bad news. Bad news first, not very helpful but with my rebuilt starter in hand and the engine in the stand I remember thinking that the starter motor bolt was going to be a sh1t to remove.

The (maybe) good news is that following on from the alternator kits I am planning to do a starter rebuild kit. I'm about to buy the parts for the trial run for the starter(hence the offer of more alternator kits ... which reminds me!) How much of a hurry are you in?

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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby muley » Sat 09.11.2019, 08:45

It's a stupid question, but I ask it anyway; Are you 100% certain that the battery is fully charged and the terminals on the battery are tight.? Your symptoms are exactly the same as you get if the battery isn't up to the job.

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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby M100TURBOFR » Sat 09.11.2019, 09:13

Jim Hi
Thanks for shedding some light. I admit I've been subjecting the battery to a lot recently trying to get it started (with recharging in between). I'll reconnect the starter up again and give it one last try (using another battery) before I continue with trying to take it out.
Simon, if all fails, I'll definitely be interested in a starter motor kit.
Will keep you advised.
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby M100TURBOFR » Sat 09.11.2019, 09:19

Simon
Forgot to mention. Since your starter motor is "on the bench", could you possibly send me a photo to give me an idea of the location of the top bolt.
Thanks David
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby Simon_P » Sat 09.11.2019, 11:22

Sorry it was on the bench 5 or 6 years ago, but I did take some photos of the engine rebuild and will look for them over the weekend.
The other bolt is opposite the lower one between the engine and the starter body. You may be able to get a hand to it from above.
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby Simon_P » Sat 09.11.2019, 11:43

Just been out to the garage to have a look on the project car. From above with the header tank at the right of the screen, you can see my magnetic wand passing through the EGR pipe, the magnet on the end is on the bolt head.
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby M100TURBOFR » Sat 09.11.2019, 12:32

Simon Thanks for the photo. I'll have a go from the top this afternoon.

Jim Tried another battery. No luck. Still the same. Just one click and no start up.

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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby M100TURBOFR » Mon 11.11.2019, 16:20

Well it's finally out.
I think the American rock band Blood, Sweat & Tears sums up everything to a tee. Hopefully I won't have to do that again in a hurry!!
OMG I've got to put everything back together again!!

Simon: Ready when you are for the starter repair kit Group Buy.
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Re: Starter motor removal

Postby Simon_P » Mon 11.11.2019, 23:49

Hi David,
PM sent regarding the kit. I will create a list in the next few days.
Do you have any tips on removing the starter?
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