Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby lotusflasherman » Tue 25.04.2017, 12:36

JossElan wrote:The paper clip test wasn't generating a fault and even the Élanscan took a few attempts to connect. More importantly, I've been done up like a right kipper!!! They ended up charging me over £400! Don't think I'll be taking my car back there again. There was another (red) Élan there too, apparently with the same problem. Wonder if they got shafted too!


SGT have been advertising as an "Independent Lotus Specialist" for decades so I'd expect them to have a Tech 1 Scanner or at least a 'half decent' way of jumpering ALDL connector terminals A to B ...

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Using a paperclip and charging £400 is just taking the piss.
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby GeoffSmith » Tue 25.04.2017, 12:59

How cheap...

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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby Giniw » Tue 25.04.2017, 13:23

?!
These are "official" LEC paper-clips? :-D
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby andy123 » Tue 25.04.2017, 13:24

Hopefully the £400 included the supply and fit of the new MAP Sensor and Josselan's car is now running as it should.
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby lotusflasherman » Tue 25.04.2017, 13:56

GeoffSmith wrote:How cheap...


Was only about a quid and much easier than trying to find the holes for the paperclip when your eyes are getting old... :lol:

If I didn't have my Elanscan cable permanently connected with USB plug conveniently under the central armrest I'd be looking at one of these, cutting of the OBD2 plug and wiring on a shorting switch ... Vauxhall-10-Pin-ALDL to-16-Pin-OBD2-Diagnostic-Adapter-Cable
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby GeoffSmith » Tue 25.04.2017, 14:03

Giniw wrote:?!
These are "official" LEC paper-clips? :-D

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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby clemo » Tue 25.04.2017, 14:36

GeoffSmith wrote:
Giniw wrote:?!
These are "official" LEC paper-clips? :-D

Oh yes.


2008 .. is that the last time we had a poll ...
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby JossElan » Thu 27.04.2017, 22:48

SGT have been advertising as an "Independent Lotus Specialist" for decades so I'd expect them to have a Tech 1 Scanner or at least a 'half decent' way of jumpering ALDL connector terminals A to B ...

paperclip.jpg


Using a paperclip and charging £400 is just taking the piss.


Just to be clear - I used the paper clip but couldn't get a code - just "12". SGT used a proper scanner but it took a few attempts to get it to communicate. £400 included the MAP sensor (£200) and labour - which I still think is pretty outrageous; however, as an earlier posts says, it wasn't a major fault which could have cost a lot more and my Élan is now running beautifully.
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby JossElan » Tue 02.05.2017, 08:29

I obviously spoke too soon! Same fault.
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby lotusflasherman » Tue 02.05.2017, 13:22

JossElan wrote:I obviously spoke too soon! Same fault.


I'd be going back to SGT to 'read the riot act'... "£400 for what? - 5 days?" How many miles have you done?
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby clemo » Tue 02.05.2017, 14:29

possible installation problem ?
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby JossElan » Tue 09.05.2017, 23:37

Hope that's it - haven't had chance to gat back at them. I'd did get about 20miles out of it though!
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby JossElan » Tue 09.05.2017, 23:38

Oh, and it won't go into reverse since they've had it!
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby JossElan » Thu 06.07.2017, 18:41

Update. On the way back the same fault reappeared and I found out that the garage broke my cross gate cable during the test drive. Changed the gear selector cables for the SJ ones (I'm now an expert on these if anyone needs any info) and fitted a new MAP sensor - this cost £30 off eBay and took 30 mins. New MAP sensor hasn't fixed the problem so I'm right back where I started but £600 lighter!
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Re: Unknown serious engine fault - PLEASE HELP

Postby Rambo » Thu 06.07.2017, 21:35

I would be asking or my money back from SGT :? After all, they've taken your money and not resolved the problem :cry:
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