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first warning light on the right

Postby Bolsom » Sun 14.04.2019, 15:24

It looks like an engine (yellow). Comes on when I turn on ignition and then goes out as I drive, but comes on intermittently as I drive.
Can anyone tell me what its for please.

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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby M100TURBOFR » Sun 14.04.2019, 16:25

Colin
Don't you have the Owner's handbook (Page 17)? Excerpt below
It's the Check Engine Tell Tale - which is provided:
1) to inform the driver that the engine management self diagnostic system has detectected a fault;
2) to assist the technician with fault diagnosis.

If the lamp remains on - or comes on whilst driving - this indicates that the self diagnotic system has detected a problem, information on which is stored in the system memory. The vehicle should be taken for inspection/repair ASAP. If the fault cures itself, or is no longer detected, the lamp will go out in most cases after about 10 seconds, but the fault information will remain stored in the memory for the next 50 starts to indicate to the technician that an intermittent fault has been detected. If no recurrence is recorded during this period, the stored information will be erased from the memory.
Certain types of detected fault will result in the system limiting engine spped to 4000 rpm in order to protect the engine from damage.
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Fredjohn » Sun 14.04.2019, 17:01

:agree:

Just to add to above comments: if you have the cable, run Elanscan which will highlight any fault codes, or go into diagnostic mode and use the CEL (the one you're querying) to establish the fault code, and then look up that code in WikiLEC under fault codes.

Detailed instructions in the WSM, electrics section.
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Bolsom » Sun 14.04.2019, 17:08

Many thanks tinkerer,

No I do not have manual - the car was in an auction - having been a type C write off.
It only had a bent top rear wishbone (top) and broken bodywork aft of the rear offside wheel.
I replaced the wishbone and had a rear end shell replaced - that was in 1993.
The user manual and toolkit were lost at this time. I have had no problems with it until recently
when due to a mouse nest in the heater, the fan speed controller burnt out. I imagine this
is the fault stored in the memory. It has done only 34K miles as I worked abroad for many years.


Thanks again

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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Fredjohn » Sun 14.04.2019, 17:13

Work shop and driver's manuals are available at the bottom of any brit-car-nut post. :) :)
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 14.04.2019, 17:34

Bolsom wrote:Many thanks tinkerer,

No I do not have manual - the car was in an auction - having been a type C write off.

Thanks again

Colin

Colin, use this link: http://www.lotusm100.com/manuals

They are all in .PDF format. You will need something like adobe reader: https://get.adobe.com/reader

You can print a page, section or chapter as you need when you are working and then if you add them to a binder you will eventually have a printed copy of the entire manual. No need to print it all at the same time.

Sorry, they are all in English...
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Rambo » Sun 14.04.2019, 17:50

BCN - I think Colin is English, despite living across Le Channel
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Fredjohn » Sun 14.04.2019, 17:52

Rambo wrote:BCN - I think Colin is English, despite living across Le Channel


That'll be La Manche then.
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby HJ2 » Sun 14.04.2019, 18:12

I don’t think that an interior fan failure will be stored in memory as it will probably be indetected / mot monitored!
It must be something else then.
Read the morse code as Per manual an post the results. That ‘ll help! :-)
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Bolsom » Sun 14.04.2019, 18:19

C'est vrai, I am English - retired here in 2002. I don 't speak much as I lost 60% of my tongue to cancer in 2007.

In the UK I probably wouldn't have been treated as I was 71. I still enjoy some foot down motoring on back lanes.


I must find my connector to download info from the engine direct.


Again many thanks for the useful comments!

Colin


PS am I the oldest Elaner ?
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby John_W » Sun 14.04.2019, 19:43

Bolsom wrote:PS am I the oldest Elaner ?

Maybe in years, but I can think of one or two who are definitely more decrepit.
:twisted:
Bolsom wrote:I must find my connector to download info from the engine direct.

Geoff might be able to sell you one.
(Certainly no connection with my previous comment.)

If the car keeps running OK you shouldn’t be doing any harm. The light is there to tell you that something isn’t working as it should and to get it checked. If it goes out, it was just a spurious error.

Actually I’m amazed you haven’t seen it lit before! Over the years my car has put the light on several times, none serious. From memory, I’ve had a faulty Hall effect sensor in the CAS, plug leads causing an error, and of course a stuck waste gate giving me overboost. But I agree with HJ2 - a mouse eating your fan controller isn’t going to do it (one ate its way into my boost sensor a few years ago and that didn’t give me an error!).

Good luck,
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby GeoffSmith » Sun 14.04.2019, 20:09

John_W wrote:
Bolsom wrote:PS am I the oldest Elaner ?

Maybe in years, but I can think of one or two who are definitely more decrepit.
:twisted:

Oi!. I resemble that remark.

John_W wrote:
Bolsom wrote:I must find my connector to download info from the engine direct.

Geoff might be able to sell you one.

I did… in June 2008.

John_W wrote:Good luck,
John

As luck would have it, John is staying in Carcassone in June…
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby John_W » Sun 14.04.2019, 21:14

GeoffSmith wrote:As luck would have it, John is staying in Carcassone in June…

Good point!
11th-13th in the Hotel du Pont Vieux then on to Nimes and points east. In the Elan of course. :mrgreen:

Are you going to be around?

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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Rambo » Sun 14.04.2019, 21:21

John_W wrote:Actually I’m amazed you haven’t seen it lit before! Over the years my car has put the light on several times, none serious. From memory, I’ve had a faulty Hall effect sensor in the CAS, plug leads causing an error, and of course a stuck waste gate giving me overboost. But I agree with HJ2 - a mouse eating your fan controller isn’t going to do it (one ate its way into my boost sensor a few years ago and that didn’t give me an error!)


Well, in 16 years of Elan ownership and 3 different ones I can honestly say I've never seen this orange light :? Maybe I've just been lucky ?
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby HJ2 » Sun 14.04.2019, 21:33

Or you are unaware that you are color-blind!? :lol:
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Rambo » Sun 14.04.2019, 21:39

Well, not coming on intermittently as I drive anyway. Obviously on start up but after a few seconds.....
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Simon_P » Mon 15.04.2019, 01:03

Colin, see Aldl in the wiki for the paperclip test
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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby Bolsom » Mon 15.04.2019, 20:22

Hi John,

Yes, I expect to be here at that time. We live out just beyond Montreal - about 20 mins from Carcassonne - if you
have time it would be nice to meet . My wife is a good cook.

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Re: first warning light on the right

Postby John_W » Mon 15.04.2019, 20:50

Colin,
Thanks, got the number. You (or a mod) might want to delete it from this public board now.
:wink:

I’ll probably give you a shout in June (or before).

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