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Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Tue 06.06.2017, 16:35

Hi everyone,

I've read many threads on this in the last day or so and I suspect I need a repair kit, but I thought I'd check with you all first.

Symptoms:
[*]UK driver's side light pod won't raise
[*]Motor just spins
[*]I can lift it, but it falls back down
[*]From a brief inspection everything appears to be connected correctly, nothing's come loose.

Anything else I should look for before ordering the repair kit?

Cheers,
Will :)
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby Elanlover » Tue 06.06.2017, 16:42

Sounds like the motor to me. Once you remove it and open it up you'll know immediately if that's the culprit. Plenty of white powder will be present where once there were three little plastic discs.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby Giniw » Tue 06.06.2017, 17:54

:agree:
There is a wiki entry about that.
http://wikilec.com/view/Light_motors

You probably won't need the metal gear, the original one is probably still OK.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Wed 07.06.2017, 13:59

Thanks for the confirmation. I read the wikilec entry and it didn't make it clear if the symptoms were the same as mine. Now I've read it a second time I can see the similarities!
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby Giniw » Wed 07.06.2017, 15:15

It's a very common fault, and a cheap fix ^^
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Wed 07.06.2017, 16:30

See this similar post and watch the video viewtopic.php?f=35&t=26079#p331350
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby C3LOS » Wed 07.06.2017, 22:32

Check out my thread from this weekend.just done the repair myself!
Same symptoms as you have and although a bit of a bugger to get the wheel arch liner off the rest is easy enough to do
Check out the you tube video https://youtu.be/OTjPoKfafSY
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Thu 08.06.2017, 22:48

Thanks BCN, C3LOS. I did see your topic before I started my thread, but since I wasn't sure what was wrong with my lights I didn't want to derail your thread.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Tue 13.06.2017, 12:56

The video's very helpful, who made it? Someone from LEC? (sorry for not recognising you!)

I haven't taken the motor off yet but I suppose I should before I order spares so I can be sure which parts I need. However, a quick look for spares shows:
- Rodney Dickman - as recommended on WikiLEC
- Wayne - I think these are best value for what I will probably need - ebay link here
- Kelvedon Lotus - This appears to be a bargain price for this kit so I'm tempted to get it even though I probably don't need most of the parts.

I note that the start of the WikiLEC article also suggests the motor can be fixed just by squeezing silicone rubber into the space where the bushings should be! Is this right or I have I read it wrong?

Cheers,
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Tue 13.06.2017, 13:47

Squeezing silicone into the space is a mistake as it doesn't last very long and near impossible to get the gunk out of the pockets.

Get a proper kit with the proper bushings and gaskets. The repair will last for a very long time.

Make sure you adjust the headlamp for full lift and close and of course, for correct fit in the body.

There are instructions for fit adjustment in the service manual as well as the service notes (1990/23).

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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Tue 13.06.2017, 14:13

Thanks, good to hear feedback on the silicone rubber technique.

I have availed myself of your service for the manuals etc in the past, thanks for keeping the fileshare going.

I'm waiting for a shipping quote from Kelvedon.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby tigerdog » Tue 13.06.2017, 14:23

While you have things apart, clean and lubricate the hinges and various other moving fittings. These get quite stiff over time, making the motor and bushings work harder. I was quite surprised at the difference this made when I replaced my headlamps, and my pods still lift without issues, 10 years later.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Tue 13.06.2017, 15:01

Good tip, thanks tigerdog.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby zaria123 » Sat 05.08.2017, 20:33

I hope you don;t mind me adding a question to this post rather than duplicate posts.

I've just brought my Elan out of hybernation for MOT, on my car when I turn the lights on:

Both lights pop up fully in unison, but the drivers side one immediately closes again, it doesn't drop with a thump, it simply closes in same way it should if I turned the lights off.

is this the same problem with a motor, or am I looking at a different problem?

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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby C3LOS » Sat 12.08.2017, 20:18

Sounds like it is the gear as per the thread above....mine was similar though was a bit jittery on the way up before it gave up the ghost and closed all by itself.
After a few more weeks it wouldn't even go up....so maybe to test the theory, I would try the lights a few times to see if it reacts the same as mine did,if so then it's the gear that will have turned to cheese.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 13.08.2017, 00:10

I think he says the driver's side winds down as if he turned the off, so the gear is working fine.

It sounds like a problem with the controller and before jumping into anything difficult, a good whack to jar it might be a good starting point. I would also un-plug the two connectors and check for dirty pins/sockets and then re-plug them giving them a fresh interconnect.
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Re: Light pod won't raise, motor spins

Postby madbilly » Wed 20.09.2017, 08:44

I got the kit from Kelvedon. A bit of a palava. Their P&P costs are very high. I decided to save a few pounds and get it delivery to my parents so they could bring it down here this summer, but Kelvedon didn't process the order until it was too late. When my parents got back my Dad sent it to me in France for cheaper than Kelvedone sent it to them in Britain! Blooming outrageous.

Anyway, the kit is just in a plastic press-seal bag with the Lotus part number hand-written on it. I'm almost certain it's not an original parts kit from Lotus but one imported from the USA. This doesn't mean it's a bad kit, but Kelvedon used the Lotus part number not their own (like SJ does) so it could be misleading.

I'll try and find time to do the work, however since I now need a three seater Lotus I think I will be lucky to find the time.... better put the car on charge!
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