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New dials needed

Postby djwazza68 » Sun 22.12.2019, 18:54

I've managed to remove my instrument cluster for some refurbishment, but want to take the yellow Lockwood dials off and replace with some OEM coloured dials. Does anyone still manufacture dials for the Elan, as Lockwood don't seem to?
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Re: New dials needed

Postby Saltire » Sun 22.12.2019, 23:26

I think I may still have some white on black ones, new and unused, in the garage if that’s of any interest. I’ll have a look tomorrow
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Re: New dials needed

Postby rip » Mon 23.12.2019, 10:17

I had Lockwoods on a previous car & they suffered UV yellowing after 3-4 years which was noticeable because of the while mark left where the speedo sat while parked.

Metal Monkey used to make replacement dials. These were available in many colours, including red on black. They would not have looked exactly the same (IMO better), but pretty close.
I can't find their website though. Someone else seems to have it now. Does anyone know if they are still trading?
I have some of their stainless dials for my Elan. My OEM ones are currently still in place & I am unsure if they can be removed without damage.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby Rambo » Mon 23.12.2019, 13:06

Haven't heard from them for years Iain. There was quite a trend on here a few years ago to replace the black/red faces for funkier white ones from Metal Monkey and also the Lockwood dials.

I'm sure if the OP contacted Dico he'd probably be able to purchase several sets from a former group buy :twisted:
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Re: New dials needed

Postby rip » Mon 23.12.2019, 13:13

Rambo wrote:I'm sure if the OP contacted Dico he'd probably be able to purchase several sets from a former group buy :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if the market for aftermarket dials dried up because dashboard designs are generally different now, many with more intricate graphical displays, so changing dials is less common?
Regarding Metal Monkey, I wonder if the current web site is actually the same company, having found a new use for their etching knowledge & technology?
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Re: New dials needed

Postby dapinky » Mon 23.12.2019, 13:25

When I got a set of Metal Monkey dial faces for myself and John orton (a fair few years ago now) - they were just slowing down their dial production to do their 'new' thing, but were happy to make/sell me some.

As they were always made to order, it wouldn't hurt to make contact and see if they would be prepared to do some more - or even if they would do it for a minimum order.... I presume they still have the computer files needed to cut them and make them, but as you say, not really enough orders to keep a large stock od slow-moving items.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby GeoffSmith » Mon 23.12.2019, 13:41

rip wrote:
Rambo wrote:I'm sure if the OP contacted Dico he'd probably be able to purchase several sets from a former group buy :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if the market for aftermarket dials dried up because dashboard designs are generally different now, many with more intricate graphical displays, so changing dials is less common?
Regarding Metal Monkey, I wonder if the current web site is actually the same company, having found a new use for their etching knowledge & technology?

You can still get white ones for Ashtrays.

Same company but it looks like they dropped dials between 5/2/2018 and 9/3/2018. Might be worth dropping an e-mail to Naomi.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby dapinky » Mon 23.12.2019, 15:44

It was Naomi who I dealt with - very helpful at the time.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby Saltire » Mon 23.12.2019, 20:40

David: you have PM, and this is the photo I was referring to:

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Re: New dials needed

Postby Rambo » Mon 23.12.2019, 21:15

rip wrote:
Rambo wrote:I'm sure if the OP contacted Dico he'd probably be able to purchase several sets from a former group buy :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if the market for aftermarket dials dried up because.....


Yeah, Dico got into rusty VW campervans with floral curtains :lol:
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Re: New dials needed

Postby djwazza68 » Tue 24.12.2019, 00:28

o: Saltire 

Hi J

I've tried PM but the system seems to hate me again. Price quoted will be perfect, I'll PayPal the amount over if you can send a current email address

I'm on 07855405645 and I've sent my address to your linked email.

Many thanks and Happy Christmas 

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Re: New dials needed

Postby Saltire » Tue 24.12.2019, 08:35

All received - I did get the PM in the end and have replied. :D
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Re: New dials needed

Postby DavidEJM » Sun 09.02.2020, 22:16

Finally decided to install my Metal Monkey dial faces after having them in the boot for a couple of years! I thought today would be a good day to sit at the dining table and faff around with it all. :D
I’ve managed to get everything out, dismantled and put back together, though I’m waiting for some chrome bezels for the ‘three’ to match the chrome trims I’ve fitted to the main dials.
What is the easiest way to get the instrument pack back in? I got it out through the front in two separate parts. Any tips would be gratefully received.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby DavidEJM » Sun 09.02.2020, 22:49

Oh, and any recommendations for new instrument bulbs. I figured it would be wise to change them while I’m in there as a couple are quite dim.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby rip » Mon 10.02.2020, 10:55

DavidEJM wrote:Oh, and any recommendations for new instrument bulbs. I figured it would be wise to change them while I’m in there as a couple are quite dim.

I believe Pinky has used LEDs. They are more reliable than they used to be & give a nice, clean light.
Don't use them for the indicator light though. Current passes through this in different directions depending on which indicator is actually on, but LEDs are 1-way.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby Fredjohn » Mon 10.02.2020, 13:39

As Ian says above, LEDs can be used. I just used std identical bulbs from Halfrauds. Result: significantly brighter.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby Saltire » Mon 10.02.2020, 18:44

rip wrote:
DavidEJM wrote:Oh, and any recommendations for new instrument bulbs. I figured it would be wise to change them while I’m in there as a couple are quite dim.

I believe Pinky has used LEDs. They are more reliable than they used to be & give a nice, clean light.
Don't use them for the indicator light though. Current passes through this in different directions depending on which indicator is actually on, but LEDs are 1-way.

I’m on LEDS too. Don’t use them in the indicator warning or the generator warning lights. Both of these take opposing current flow and an LED won’t work properly. The rest are fine. I tried white LEDs throughput to start with, but eventually settled on LEDs the same colour as the warning (e.g. red LED for handbrake, green for sidelights, etc.) IMHO this gave a better result.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby Fredjohn » Mon 10.02.2020, 19:26

Bit of variation in the answers.

Can you enlighten(!!!!) us as to whether you mean warning lights or lights for illuminating the instruments??

I assumed the latter.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby dapinky » Mon 10.02.2020, 19:41

I'm on LEDs for both the illumination function of the main instrument panel, the 3x dials at the top of the fascia, the heater control unit......

.....and....

... most of the 'warning lamps'.

However, as Jonathan says, i couldn't get on with LEDs for the Altenator warning (red), indicator (green) and Engine management (yellow) warnings. The first 2 require current in 2 directions, and I couldn't be bothered to wire 2 LEDs together, the EML worked with LED in there, but glowed dimmly under normal driving conditions due to some inherrent voltage flow, I presume.

For the main instrument panel I started out with red LEDs, but changed them to white ones (both worked, but I preferred the look with white ones) - I have white ones in the 3 single gauges, and the heater control.
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Re: New dials needed

Postby DavidEJM » Mon 10.02.2020, 19:57

Fredjohn wrote:Bit of variation in the answers.

Can you enlighten(!!!!) us as to whether you mean warning lights or lights for illuminating the instruments??

I assumed the latter.
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Yes. My fault. Not very clear there!

I meant instrument illumination, but useful info on the others too, which I hadn’t considered.
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