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[PiperRS]

Has anyone got a picture of the two box system? I only ask as I think I'm going to have to get my Peco system altered as it's just a little too loud and wondered where they managed to put the second box..... don't get me wrong I like the sound
but it can get a bit tiring on a long journey.

Cheers
Chris

Chris

We put the second silencer in the front section. This was however taken into account at the design stage to allow space for the silencer.

Here are some pics from during the development



- Lots of clearance

From what i am told (and i may be wrong) it is not possible to fit an additional silencer to the Peco system as the system design does not allow enough space anywhere along its length.

I hope this answers your question.

[chrisP]

Thanks very much for that answer and the pictures Garry, it looks like a quality product! I think I will have to put up with the noise in that case!

Cheers
Chris

[PiperRS]

Thanks very much for that answer and the pictures Garry, it looks like a quality product! I think I will have to put up with the noise in that case!

Cheers
Chris

Chris

Or buy one of our silenced systems

Thanks for the compliments.

Happy Motoring.

[Rusty]

I've been exploring the performance of my S1 no cat 1 silencer system and today gave it full beans in third gear watching the boost guage which went up to three quarters when the wastegate cut in with a bang and engine management light lit which went out after a minute after returning to lower revs. She drives fine after this incident.

As the new system is 2.25 inches and lets the gas flow more freely i've only ever seen the boost guage hit halfway before. Is it ok leaving it as is or should the wastegate be adjusted?

Rusty

[rip]

Rusty,
FIrstly, stock boost is 0.65 bar. The boost gauges are notoriously innaccurate which is why you were only seeing 0.5, but are obviously giving you a good idea of what is going on.
The cutting out is not the wastegate 'cutting in' but the wastegate is involved.
With the extra gas flow, the wastegate is too small to allow enough exhaust gas to bypass the turbo. The wastegate cannot open more than 100% (obviously). If 100% is not enough (as in your case & mine too), the turbo produces too much boost (boost creep). When the level of boost reaches 0.94 bar, then the ECU registers overboost, cuts power & restricts you to 4000rpm for a few seconds.
The cure is to port the wastegate. There is loads of info on the forum & Wiki about this, but in short, it involves removing the turbo (& all the rusted bolts which hold it in place ) then open out the wastegate to about 20mm with a grinding wheel. I've not done mine yet, but will be adding a Pre-cat eliminator when I do.

[mnemonix]

Has anyone got a picture of the two box system? I only ask as I think I'm going to have to get my Peco system altered as it's just a little too loud and wondered where they managed to put the second box..... don't get me wrong I like the sound but it can get a bit tiring on a long journey.

I replaced the Peco system on my car with a complete 2 box Piper system for the same reasons, and I have to say it was the best money I've spent on my car. It's quieter but still with a good exhaust note. It also made the car "feel" much smoother, more driveable and strangely faster, maybe just because it wasn't barking at me all the time, but I felt much more comfortable using the full rev range and changing up later.

Although I didn't fit the Peco i was concerned that I might be wasting my money replacing a perfectly good exhaust, but for me, it was money well spent as it dramatically increased my enjoyment of the car!

[ektrolleyboy]

All this talk of silencers has me worried.
I've ordered a 2.25 Sports cat' for my S2. Will I find this too loud?

[rip]

Will I find this too loud?

I would expect that the cat will muffle the exhaust note a little as it filters the gas.
Whether or not you find it too loud is a matter of personal taste.
If you don't like it at first, it may grow on you.
I didn't want overrun, but now I smile whenever the exhaust pops.

[ektrolleyboy]

The exhaust on my Cooper S, which was standard, burbled and popped like a bitch!
It was awesome! Hoping for the same from Piper.

[Rusty]

Thanks RIP, i'll look at porting the wastegate when funds are available and in the meantime drive more circumspectly!

Rusty.

[ektrolleyboy]

Who's had their Piper system and PCE fitted?
What were the problems?
And how much were you charged?

Mine's off to Paul Matty to be fitted, so I'm expecting a rather large labour bill. Anyone know what I'm looking at?

[max and andy]

We are trying to Find the Photo guide to how to fit the Piper RS that is hiding on the site? Can anyone point us in the right direction? We are getting it fitted Tuesday at Lakeside Engineering and would like to send them a copy of the instructions, the same way we did with Geoffs Wastegate port photo's and instructions. Thanks Geoff. I know how to send them once we have been PM them. But we are unsure how to get them from the site to our PM service. Thats if i could find them again anyway. Cheers M & A

[Specky]

Clicky

TTFN

[max and andy]

That's great Specky saved again. Can you visit the thread above and send it to me in a PM? Am i right in saying that when you PM us it also goes to our Email? I don't know how to pick it up to send in an email. I do know how once its been PM. I have our Email address ticked on the control panel to show up on our profile. But it says max and andy. Any clue why? Cheers i would of never found it. It should be on the wiki should it not? Just asking. Andy

[dapinky]

M & A

As I am online, and Specky isn't (at the moment) - I've taken the liberty of sending you an e-mail with the instructions as an attachment - that way you should just need to forward it on to the garage without any other editing. (except your own message to them, if required!)

[max and andy]

Cheers Pinky their to good not to send. I noticed earlier that are Email address is hidden when we have it ticked to show. How do we get rid of the andy and max and replace with are Email address? Andy

[inkitin]

I noticed earlier that are Email address is hidden when we have it ticked to show. How do we get rid of the andy and max and replace with are Email address? Andy

Andy- your e-mail is showing and working fine next to your posts. Why do you think there's a problem?

[max and andy]

When i look at it it says andy and max. Ive got it. You press the envelope. Lessons are coming soon. Until then please be patient with us. And Ive been working all night. Well that's my excuse. Andy

[inkitin]

When i look at it it says andy and max.

Next to your posts? or in your profile?

[inkitin]

When i look at it it says andy and max. Ive got it. You press the envelope. Lessons are coming soon. Until then please be patient with us. And Ive been working all night. Well that's my excuse. Andy