Dropping the fuel tank

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Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Lotusman33 » Thu 21.09.2017, 20:31

Hey everyone

I want to drop my tank to investigate the vapour smell so was looking for some tips?

Unfortunately my garage has an Esprit in bits inside along with my 1960 mini so this work will be done on my drive which does slope!

Any help would be appreciated. :cheers:

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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Giniw » Thu 21.09.2017, 21:17

Hello,
I have not done that work myself (so far) but I read recently here somewhere that the car needed to be lifted quite high so I am not sure it's a very good idea to try to do that on your drive.
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Postby Lotusman33 » Thu 21.09.2017, 21:36

Thanks, Yes I heard that too, my other option although not preferred is to release and clean up all the fastenings and remove all the trims then drive it to my local garage and get them to drop it. I like doing things myself as would clean and paint anything exposed along with getting the straps re-plated.
How high does the car need to be?
I can turn the front wheel into my wall so the car can't run away as done this with lots of cars over the years while doing rear brake/suspension work.
At worst my Esprit is going to paint soon so I can use the garage then.

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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Giniw » Thu 21.09.2017, 22:02

I don't know the exact height, and unfortunately I can't find that thread where it was talked about that.
I think it was lotusflasherman who told recently (EDIT: not that much, written in 2015 apparently ^^) the Elan needed to be lifted high to remove the tank. I have no doubt he or someone else will give you more informations :-)
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Postby Giniw » Thu 21.09.2017, 22:09

I found what I was referring to: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=24779#p312409
=> So, it's at least the height of the tank (I don't know the height of the fuel tank though :-D)
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Lotusman33 » Thu 21.09.2017, 23:00

Excellent stuff, very informative and I can see it won't be easy on my drive. :bonk:

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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Giniw » Fri 22.09.2017, 12:30

On the other hand maybe you can dig a hole in your drive if it's nor concrete nor asphalt! :D
(That may sound a bit silly but if I needed it maybe I would do that :lol: )
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby lotusflasherman » Fri 22.09.2017, 13:12

I bought one of these to make changing the alternator a bit easier ...SCISSOR-LIFT-TILTING-CAR-LIFT-RAMP
When I used it I realised I'd probably have been able to change the fuel tank myself if I'd had it then. I used hockey pucks with holes drilled in them to sit on the jacking points, and a steel channel to support the car on the jacking points, not the side members. Elan is front heavy so centre of balance is about where the door mirrors are, so positioned as shown in the photo the car is on a see-saw and easy to lift or raise either end, and the lift will go much higher than shown.
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(Platforms come off by removing 2 bolts and then it stands between the brick piers in the garage when not in use ... photo 3)
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Lotusman33 » Fri 22.09.2017, 17:00

Thanks Phil, I have been looking at buying one of these for years now and been undecided which one to buy. Looks ideal for the Elan, is it steady?
Will be handy for my Esprit restoration as well provided it can handle the weight okay. I like your garage floor, are they the interlocking tiles you can buy?
Nice hardtop on the Elan as well!

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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby clemo » Fri 22.09.2017, 21:26

I like your garage .... look at all that room .
plus i like the ramps and floor too
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Giniw » Fri 22.09.2017, 21:42

edit: ooops sorry, wrong topic :oops:
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby lotusflasherman » Fri 22.09.2017, 21:44

Dave,
Scissor Lift is rated for 1500kg (3306 lbs) so also OK for my Eclat (2540lb) which is heavier than S1, S2 & S3 Esprits but V8 Esprit, at 3036lb, is heavier but still within rating. Rather than use the cranking handle supplied I shove my mains powered impact wrench on it and it whizzes up - and comes down even quicker :lol: It's very steady side to side as it's as wide as the car but acts like a seesaw front to back so I leave a bit of nose weight and use axle stand or trolley jack to stop it rocking.

Garage floor is not interlocking tiles, I was told if you spill oil it can go down the gaps and they work out quite expensive. ... I went for this sheet stuff that comes as a 7' 6" wide roll, 17ft long so worked best for me laying it across the double garage. Durable-Car-Waterproof-Flooring-Grey
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby lotusflasherman » Fri 22.09.2017, 22:37

clemo wrote: .... look at all that room .

never enough room ... I was standing beside my Eclat when I took that other photo ... and now there's a Subaru engine rebuild going on so another desk and engine stand cluttering the place up... lucky the Elan fits under the desk .. :lol: !
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Lotusman33 » Fri 22.09.2017, 23:08

Thanks again Phil, told wife I want a scissor lift for xmas :lol:

Eclat looks like Rivera from bonnet? Don't see many of those about if so.

Going to investigate my tank this weekend to check the sleeve has not dropped inside, will remove the fuel sender/pump and have a good look. Also want to check all the elbows etc, my car has the evaporate system fitted as well.

Not decided about flooring as painted floor in my garage has been fine just cold to lay on, tend to use old flat packed boxes sometimes. Restoring a 1981 Dry Sump at the moment.

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Unfortunately my Elan has to go for the time as need the space and want to move soon, need to get the Esprit finished first. I will buy another M100 once settled though as still my favourite Lotus to own and live with. :burnout:
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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Lotusman33 » Sat 23.09.2017, 17:22

Petrol Tank issue now fixed, I removed the pump and found the sleeve in the tank. I put my inspection camera in to view the neck from the inside and all looked good.
Sleeve fitted back in filler neck and I replaced the breather hoses to the Evaporate system and tank.
Just returned from test drive and visit to petrol station, all good with zero smell :banana

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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby clemo » Sat 23.09.2017, 22:27

glad you got to the bottom of it ..
both the tank an the problem .

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Re: Dropping the fuel tank

Postby Lotusman33 » Sat 23.09.2017, 23:50

Cheers Dave, glad it is finally sorted as stopped me using the car unless hood was down. Yes Esprit is nice but actually prefer the Elan as much more usable daily fun. :cheers:
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