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dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Mon 29.11.2010, 08:15

my dash seems to be falling apart..
refer to pic links

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... 2897-3.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_2894.jpg

anyone has encountered this before?

i saw that there are 2 screws along the black outer cover, but there seems to be no clips that the screws should be turned into....

i tried to search the forum but did not come across anyone with such a problem

any clues?? tks
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby Rice crispy » Mon 29.11.2010, 14:39

Mine looks the same , seems to get worse in the winter and closes up in the summer :D preffers the sun like me
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby esprit888 » Mon 29.11.2010, 19:44

Its been covered a couple of times on here but i couldnt find the post. Its the mounting brackets coming unglued from the dash, fairly common and not that difficult to fix but you do have to remove the dash and fascia panels to reglue or fabricate the new brackets. go here: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=15187#p201610
and the bottom picture shows the where the two top brackets should be (on mine one was missing) they look like they have come loose on yours.
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Tue 30.11.2010, 01:15

@ lansledj - mine was slowly coming off whilst the engine was being rebuilt. it got worse over the weeks.

@ esprit888 - tks for the link. probably will need to fabricate something to make it hold better.

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Re: dash falling apart

Postby esprit888 » Tue 30.11.2010, 02:38

Managed to find the other post by racersteve which has pictures of the brackets he had to make up as his were missing, go to: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=17508&p=230153#p230153
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby racerstev » Tue 30.11.2010, 05:10

Be sure to test the glue you are going to use, most don't stick well. I wound up
using a glue made for holding fenders on.

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Re: dash falling apart

Postby esprit888 » Tue 30.11.2010, 05:34

racerstev wrote:Be sure to test the glue you are going to use, most don't stick well. I wound up
using a glue made for holding fenders on.

Steve

:agree:
I used a clear two part epoxy available from most hardware stores.
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Tue 30.11.2010, 07:15

tks for the link again
i wonder what i'll see when i mange to get it off...
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby DeanG » Fri 03.12.2010, 00:02

Very timely. I have to do some gluing myself.
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby hoppy66 » Sat 04.12.2010, 08:32

Mine too is sagging Pecks, on one side where there is no clip, but as mentioned but many others lots of brown gooey stuff inside!! On a slightly different note, does anyone know if the plastic instrument binacle surrounds are available anywhere as mine is cracked and spilt by way of the RH screw hole? I've reglued it for now but it won't be a long term fix.
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby DeanG » Sat 04.12.2010, 18:38

I can't say about the binnacle however I bought the last new instrument cluster from Dave Bean Engineering. I hasn't arrived yet but I hope to have the car running in time for a trip to the local British car club Christmas club.
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Sat 11.12.2010, 17:21

k, so i managed to remove the facia mask today
some pics i took

the facia mask.. it seems i'm missing 2 mounting brackets according to the manual
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... 0284-2.jpg

without a mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0285.jpg

with mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0286.jpg

without mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0287.jpg

with mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0288.jpg

without mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0289.jpg

with mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0290.jpg

without mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0291.jpg

with mounting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... G_0292.jpg

the glue is very soft to the touch. i don't know if it is because of the local weather or not, but i have removed all mounting brackets and will re-attach them using epoxy or such...
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Mon 13.12.2010, 10:23

hmm... from looking at racerstev and esprit888 pics it seems that i have more than 2 brackets missing...

and the brackets also seems to be in different places for the UK and US elan
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby racerstev » Mon 13.12.2010, 14:46

Something I found after doing my dash that may help you. A thin feeler gauge (.015" or so)
makes a great tool to spread the epoxy.

On my thread I am missing 3 mounts, 2 of 3 at the very top of the dash and one that holds
the left lower corner in place.

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Re: dash falling apart

Postby esprit888 » Wed 15.12.2010, 21:13

PECKHS wrote:hmm... from looking at racerstev and esprit888 pics it seems that i have more than 2 brackets missing...

and the brackets also seems to be in different places for the UK and US elan


:agree: looks like you are missing some more (the top centre for sure)
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Thu 16.12.2010, 02:40

yep, upon closer look i realised the top centre bracket is also missing. that is an easy fix, but the others (these 2 .... http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/ ... 0284-2.jpg) will be a little tough as i will have to fabricate something of the correct length.
will have to do a measurement before anything can be done..hopefully will be able to sort them out this weekend
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby bobbrown » Thu 16.12.2010, 10:11

If you need dimensions of the brackets email me as I have a spare I can use to get the dimensions.

Here's the one that sits on the lower edge to the left of the column when viewed from the front.
material is steel 1mm thick and plated

dash brackets 1.jpg


the center one is a right angle bracket with a captive nut in it M4
dash brackets 2.jpg


next ones a bit more tricky, the one that sits to the right of the gauges viewed from the front as it is a round standoff 28mm tall

On my dash there is not one fitted right hand side of instrument cluster viewed from the front where you have an arrow on your picture and no sign of one ever having been there.

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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Fri 17.12.2010, 03:08

bobbrown wrote:If you need dimensions of the brackets email me as I have a spare I can use to get the dimensions.

Here's the one that sits on the lower edge to the left of the column when viewed from the front.
material is steel 1mm thick and plated

dash brackets 1.jpg


the center one is a right angle bracket with a captive nut in it M4
dash brackets 2.jpg


next ones a bit more tricky, the one that sits to the right of the gauges viewed from the front as it is a round standoff 28mm tall

On my dash there is not one fitted right hand side of instrument cluster viewed from the front where you have an arrow on your picture and no sign of one ever having been there.

Bob


hi bob, from what i see from the service manual, the other arrow i assume to be 'B' as per below diagram..coorect me if i'm wrong
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Re: dash falling apart

Postby PECKHS » Fri 17.12.2010, 08:08

Image

ok, i've tried to match the brackets as per the service manual, and it seems i'm missing 'B' (which seems to be a fork) and 'D', as well as the one in at the top in the middle just above the instrument binnacle..

am i right??

bobbrown, greatly appreciate if you can provide the dimensions for the 'B' bracket..

tks

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Re: dash falling apart

Postby bobbrown » Fri 17.12.2010, 10:58

The one I have does not have a bracket in B and looking at it closely, there does not appear to have been one fitted, so not able to help with that one.
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