How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture heavy!)

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How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture heavy!)

Postby HJ2 » Sun 02.10.2011, 20:46

Look what the mail man delivered!

1. All parts (Metal Monkey) are carefully packed.
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2.A very useful manual. Read it before starting the job!
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3.Fragile parts are supported by plywood, no risk of receiving damaged parts
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4. Oooh! Shiny parts revile themselves!
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5. Most lights here you usually don't want to see
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6.Same here
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7. This is the complete set
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8. The main dials in detail
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9. The heater plate and separate dial faces
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10. This is how it looks stock. Note the white circle of light in the oil pressure gauge. It fell back into the dash without touching! (not good)
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11. Stock dials at ambient lighting
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12. Let's start with the heater plate and pull the knobs off
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13. Carefully remove the latch-clipped face plate. Don't force it, bit gently pry it out.
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14. My most trusted instrument, the scalpel with good quality British Steel, blade 24!
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15. This is what you pry out :mrgreen:
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16. The plate is kept in position with melted studs. You can cut the entire melted part or, like I did, just cut the excessive melted plastic and leave the remains of the studs intact.
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17. Presto! It's out!
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18. Put the new one in and get a big flat screwdriver heated up
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19. Melt new flat ends on the remains of the studs, and everything is fixed again!
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20. There, that looks better, doesn't it?
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21. Knobs back and job well done. :bananasex:
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22. Let's get on with the main cluster. Remove the cover plate by removing the to Phillips screws on top.
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23. Unclip the 3 connectors on the back. Easy does it, as they directly clip into the flexible Cu band on the back. You don't want to break this!
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24. Remove the 2 screws that keep the bezel
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25. Take the bezel away from the front.
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26. Remove the nut that holds the top of the instrument cluster
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27. Remove the covers that mask the screws that hold the plate at the divers knees.
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28. Remove them to gain access from below to the instrument cluster if needed (I did)
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29. Remove the instrument cluster from above, take care not to scratch the perspex cover!
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30. Place the cluster on your bench and unclip the black clips (no tools needed, just your fingers)
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31. here you are! Naked instruments Whaaaaa! :oops:
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32. Remove the pins as instructed. Use a tool with flat beaks that don't damage the plastic, and use a straight movement so they won't break (they are snap-fit)
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33. The needles move to their natural position, don't move them around now!
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34. Mark the position of the needles. As a coincidence, both needles came out on he same (red) marker!
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35. Remove the faces, Careful! gently pry out the surroundings of odometer and trip meter, They are clipped with 2 notches on each long long end so gently squeezing them together should do the trick (One of mine, the large one, broke, if anybody's got a spare, drop me a PM please!)
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36. That looks better!
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37. Replace the needles, (not too firm at first, as you might want to reposition them later if your markings made in step 34 turn out incorrect!) and Replace the pin' s. Then do a check in the car with connectors back in position and ignition on to see if all dials have the correct position. Actually, I did some calibration runs with my GPS to calibrate the speedometer
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38. Replace the bezels & cover, Admire your handy work!
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39. Now the last part: The remaining 3 dials! This is how they look from above
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40. Remove the nuts and washers from the back, taking great care not to drop anything. Here you see the volt meter comes out
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41. Note how the cables are connected! (take plenty of pictures)
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42. Note how the white housing of the dial fell apart spontaneously. The white plastic is actually made of baked tooth paste :banghead:
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43. The metal fixture bracket for the dials
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44. Old face
EDIT (spammed by hacking my tinypic url :-( )

45. Needle removed
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46. Undo the 2 screws
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47. Remove the old face plate
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48. Put on the new plate and put back screws (careful not to over tighten them, they only need to hold the dial and backing)
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49. Slight damage from your tools on the screws can be camouflaged by a good quality permanent felt tip marker :wink:
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50. Dial face back on
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51. I Used Super Glue to repair the housing as RTV is not strong enough! Make sure to clean the interior of the dial first and remove all enclosed particles.
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52. Super Glue (the gel-type) all around
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53. Presto! Now the other 2!
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54. Wow! 10 years younger in a couple of hours!
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55.It's beautiful!
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Re: How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture hea

Postby hatters » Sun 02.10.2011, 20:59

The end result is excellent but I dont think I would feel confident enough in tackling mine without making a major balls up of it
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Re: How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture hea

Postby HJ2 » Sun 02.10.2011, 21:09

It looks harder than it is!
One piccie at the time, and you're ready before you know it! :cheers:
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Postby RayD » Sun 02.10.2011, 21:25

Here's the method I used for getting the front off the dials ... just clips back on.
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Re: How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture hea

Postby bobbrown » Sun 02.10.2011, 21:27

That's one way, here's another.

With the dials for oil pressure, volts and boost, I made up an aluminium ring to fit the dial into to support it so the folded over metal that retains the glass could be eased back such the ring and glass are easy to remove and reduces any load on the plastic of the gauge and can also be used to push it back in place.
All i have to do now is take them all out and change them, another job of many to do.


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Re: How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture hea

Postby HJ2 » Sun 02.10.2011, 21:29

With my dials... Well, all the white parts are made of baked tooth paste!
So the pictures don't show how I separated the parts, but how I found them after removing the brackets :shock:

I added some text for clarity in the initial post :poke:
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Postby epipete » Sun 02.10.2011, 23:14

Can you please clarify how you removed the needles? In many ways this is the scariest part!
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Postby rip » Sun 02.10.2011, 23:31

hatters wrote:The end result is excellent but I dont think I would feel confident enough in tackling mine without making a major balls up of it
Well done

After breaking the tacho needle on my Mk3 Cav (which has a very familiar instrument panel), I feel the same way.

Metal Monkey dials are nice though. What colour backlighting did you go for?
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Re: How to change your dial faces, comic style! (picture hea

Postby HJ2 » Mon 03.10.2011, 08:07

Metal Monkey had dials with Km/h only which is what I wanted.
Overall I'm happy with the white and if I get bored I can always place an extra layer of red foil behind the dials 8)
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Postby HJ2 » Mon 03.10.2011, 08:18

epipete wrote:Can you please clarify how you removed the needles? In many ways this is the scariest part!


As I am most comfortable with an instrument called: 'my fingers', I pulled all with my fingers, except the rev counter which has a metal interface with the needle. There I used the method as described in the Metal Monkey manual: 2 tea spoons! (cover them with tape) and make sure the needle goes up in a straight line. Place the spoons as close to the needle as you can and lever the bugger out.

It's easy if you're handy, but if you don't feel confident enough, ask somebody with more experience to help you!
As I have learned in the past two years: In the process of self education you sometimes brake stuff. So you have to make sure that you only brake stuff that's replaceable and cheap, and I don't think an instrument cluster is either one of those. :bonk:

For me the scary part was removing the bezels surrounding the trip and odometer as i did not know where the notches are (You all do now, see the picture). And I was right, I broke one, but I knew beforehand I can repair it ;-)
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Postby addict » Mon 03.10.2011, 15:04

where did u get your new faces and how mutch
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Postby HJ2 » Mon 03.10.2011, 18:11

Tip from Metal Monkey (and LEC) :

Backlight colour can be changed by replacing the bulbs with coloured bulbs in whatever colour you fancy 8)
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Postby Steve A » Mon 03.10.2011, 21:24

Thats a Quality Topic HJ2 :clap:

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Postby HJ2 » Tue 04.10.2011, 08:41

Thanks mate!

Making this topic took me almost just as long as replacing the dials ;-)
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Postby Mikee » Mon 09.01.2012, 23:55

Brilliant post. Answers other questions I had wondered about in the past too!

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Postby Lotus54 » Tue 10.01.2012, 04:26

Wow, those look so much better than the red ones.
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Postby tigerdog » Tue 10.01.2012, 06:10

Image 44 seems to have been hacked in an amusing fashion... :)

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Postby HJ2 » Tue 10.01.2012, 08:57

Whahaha!

I wonder how hey did that! :roll:
It's hosted on tinypic...
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Postby Gazza » Fri 20.01.2012, 02:56

Looks very good. Done the heater panel on mine and a few switches.

You need to get the 3 knobs for the heater panel with white markers not red to finish it off. :wink: Think they are off a commodore from Oz.

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