what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Wed 17.02.2016, 23:39

Grant wrote:I too am looking to do a suspension overhaul this coming summer. Just starting to search for parts so I can be ready to go come spring. As always however, I am having a hard time finding parts here in the US. Is anyone aware of a coilover kit in the US? Or am I better off ordering the kit from the UK? Looking for adjustable coilovers to be able to lower ride height. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

This looks to be one option...

Just a word of warning: The US/FED car has different specifications for the suspension (shocks and springs) than the other market M100s. If you order from the UK or Europe, MAKE SURE you are getting a kit that is made for the FED car. If not, you are likely t have to crank up the spring(s) to get the ride height to the Fed standard but that will increase the spring rate which will make for a harsher ride.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Grant » Fri 26.02.2016, 21:32

Are there any US Elan owners out here that have upgraded suspension, that could suggest some good options for the FED Elan?
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Rusty Wishbone » Fri 26.02.2016, 23:23

Candles wrote:I set the spring seats up with a steel ruler to mimic the stock shocks. Really, once the setup is complete, you should have the car aligned by a specialist and the corner weights adjusted. This is expensive and you could avoid this by buying stock replacements.


I think that I am right to say that corner weights and ride heights can only be adjusted with adjustable dampers. Original Lotus units are not adjustable.

When I spoke to one Lotus specialist, they said that, in their view Protech dampers were better than Gaz. I don't know the basis for that view, though.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby tigerdog » Sun 13.03.2016, 00:54

I have a full set of GAZ adjustable shocks, new in the box. They came with Smaug when I bought him but I decided to stay with the stock suspension. I will sell for less than current retail + shipping or trade straight up if someone can source a set of New Old Stock Fed Dampers. Please PM me. Edit: don't PM me. These are sold. :)
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Grant » Tue 19.04.2016, 22:37

Just bought these from Tigerdog and plan to install this weekend.

I have a few questions for anyone that has done this before.

First the kit includes something that looks like a small spring top seat, but these would seem to be unnecessary.
Second, I assume the original spring top seat mounts between the top rubber bushings. See picture.
Third, there are 2 extra set screws in the kit. Are these just extras for lower adjustable spring seat, or are they for the dampening adjustment knobs?
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Grant » Tue 10.05.2016, 19:20

Got the rears installed. So far, so good.
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Now on to the fronts.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby tigerdog » Sun 15.05.2016, 16:56

Looking good! :smt023
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Grant » Mon 23.05.2016, 16:30

Fronts done. Only problem is, the kit didn't come with the spanner wrench used to adjust the ride height/pre-load on the lower spring seat.
Anyone know where I can get one or what size I would need?

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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby HJ2 » Mon 23.05.2016, 16:39

I see you have greenstuff on the rear.
I just now had a failing greenstuff pad. the bonding of the pad on the carrier desintegrated completely! If I fully applied the brake, the wheel could turn without any resistance. So take care!
(replaced them by Mintex now...)

Your work looks great by the way!
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Grant » Mon 23.05.2016, 16:42

HJ2 wrote:I see you have greenstuff on the rear.
I just now had a failing greenstuff pad. the bonding of the pad on the carrier desintegrated completely! If I fully applied the brake, the wheel could turn without any resistance. So take care!
(replaced them by Mintex now...)

Your work looks great by the way!


How many miles did they do before they failed?
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby HJ2 » Mon 23.05.2016, 16:47

No that much, something like 8.000 KM's!
There are more people with the same problem if you google...
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby tigerdog » Wed 25.05.2016, 01:37

Nice work! I like the red finish on the suspension arms.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby DeanG » Fri 27.05.2016, 00:37

You can get the wrenches to adjust the shocks from https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ I've purchased stuff from them for years. Good company.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby clemo » Wed 17.05.2017, 22:07

dapinky wrote:I'm running on standard (new 3K miles ago) springs and AVOs - not had any problems since fitting them.

The nice thing with AVOs is that when they get a bit old, or if they develop a leak, they can be sent back to the factory for a rebuild.

I bought mine S/H from a forum member, they wern't old, and didn't leak or look like they were in bad condition, but for peace of mind (and a known starting point of reference) I sent them back for a re-build. I got them back a week later and the cost was about a hundred quid for all 4.



My ( eventually ) car has standard all rounds ,

My boxes of bits in the garage has 2x front Avo red things ( in need of refurb )
and 2 x standard things .

Question ... why would anyone fit just 2 ?
And if no reason i assume if i send my Avo's back for refurb then they could probably work what ones in need for the rears ..

Pinky did yours come with springs too ?
as i see a lot of kits such as the Gaz things from Sw lotus are being sold without springs .

cheers everyone for your usual words of wisdom .
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby dapinky » Wed 17.05.2017, 22:20

Clemo,

I was fortunate to grab mine from Gazza when he upgraded to Nitrons. They came with springs and had been fitted for about a year/3000 miles. The springs were genuine Lotus ones so I just had the shocks rebuilt so I know that they would be 'as new'.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby clemo » Wed 17.05.2017, 22:41

dapinky wrote:Clemo,

I was fortunate to grab mine from Gazza when he upgraded to Nitrons. They came with springs and had been fitted for about a year/3000 miles. The springs were genuine Lotus ones so I just had the shocks rebuilt so I know that they would be 'as new'.


ahhh , they are pretty pricey now , looking on the website .
Do the rears have any code or id number on them .
I think i will send mine back on the morning for refurb , and get them sent straight up to the garage along with another set for the rears .
I take it all 4 are adjustable rather than just a mild front rake set up ..

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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby dapinky » Thu 18.05.2017, 09:42

No numbers visible on mine (but I have painted them!).

There is adjustment for 'rate' and seat height - I find that the most suitable setting is quite 'soft' (1 or 2 clicks from softest setting, and ride height as per workshop manual, then tweeked a bit by corner weighting.

I've had them on other cars and really like them, so when this set came up for a bargain, I grabbed them. I haven't used GAZ ones, so can't comment, but I would say that I cannot recommend ProTech for the elan - maybe I was just unlucky with mine when I had the red car. (They worked okay, but not as structurally solid as I would like - maybe they've changed the design by now, but the rear ones on the car when I bought it started leaking, and the replacement ones I fitted both cracked by the lower bushes.
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby clemo » Thu 18.05.2017, 10:19

Spoken to AVO this morning .
They will do a refurb at the price of £10 - £40 depending on work requirement . Though they do not do the cosmetic side of things .
I can purchase the rears at £110 each .

FYI all shocks are £110 each regardless of corner

5 to 10 day turn around on refurbishment
New M100 shocks in stock

He does not get involved in springs and mine need to be removed . Mine are off the car with spring still attached

IS the cable tie method of removal likely to take my head off ?

Thanks all .
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby John_W » Thu 18.05.2017, 11:39

Come on, Clemo - it's an excuse to buy spring compressors. Never turn down an opportunity to buy new tools. :poke:
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Re: what shocks/coilovers.....avo/gaz

Postby Steve A » Thu 18.05.2017, 13:41

clemo wrote:Spoken to AVO this morning .
They will do a refurb at the price of £10 - £40 depending on work requirement . Though they do not do the cosmetic side of things .
I can purchase the rears at £110 each .

FYI all shocks are £110 each regardless of corner

5 to 10 day turn around on refurbishment
New M100 shocks in stock

He does not get involved in springs and mine need to be removed . Mine are off the car with spring still attached

IS the cable tie method of removal likely to take my head off ?

Thanks all .


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