Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Moderators: theelanman, dapinky, Specky, clemo, Nige, Sy V, Dave Eds, DaveT, Elanlover, muley, Enright, algirdas, nitroman, GeoffSmith

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby HJ2 » Tue 04.10.2011, 22:55

I had no self centering issues with this particular kit. If i'm correct, Bob adressed this issue specifically in his design.
I have no experience with AB. Just S1, S2 and Bob.
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got
User avatar
HJ2
Wodan - God of the Low Lands
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Fri 06.06.2008, 10:54
Location: Delft, the Netherlands

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby bobbrown » Tue 04.10.2011, 23:20

Rip,

You'll have a great deal of trouble filing a rod end! in any case the ball of the rod end is clamped in place and all the rotation is done in the ball on a teflon liner.

There were a couple of reasons for fitting rod ends one is the misalignment issue, like how is a bush supposed to cope with a shaft that not only rotates but also moves in and out, Lotus answer rubber bush, AB cables answer nylon bush, my answer rod end, two work one doesn't, no prizes for the one that doesn't.

JonT, I assume 5th to 3rd/4th is ok, the system relies on the springs in the selector box to self center the gear lever, it could be one of the ball joints is a little stiff and should free up with a little use if it doesn't let me know.

Bob
Pacific Blue N/A
" When you’re up to your arse in alligators, it’s difficult to remember that the object of the exercise is to drain the swamp"
please use email for correspondence
User avatar
bobbrown
God
 
Posts: 2804
Joined: Wed 10.05.2006, 12:51
Location: North Essex

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby JonT » Sun 09.10.2011, 16:59

bobbrown wrote:JonT, I assume 5th to 3rd/4th is ok, the system relies on the springs in the selector box to self center the gear lever, it could be one of the ball joints is a little stiff and should free up with a little use if it doesn't let me know.

Done a couple of hundred miles now with only one minor issue - I didn't do the lock nuts on the adjuster tight enough. Discovered this when I lost 2,4,R after they worked themselves loose on the fore-aft cable while out with a friend this morning :oops: Fortunately I had the 24mm cut-down spanners in the boot, so didn't take long to sort. Now done up a bit better and the self centering seems to have sorted itself out :lol: :cheers:
User avatar
JonT
Fanatic
 
Posts: 389
Joined: Mon 10.01.2011, 09:20
Location: Bristol

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby cliff » Sun 09.10.2011, 21:02

Done over 900 miles on Bob's cables & Dave's short shift - no issues at all. A good smooth gear change

I did cheat & get them fitted by GST though. :roll:
91 Lotus Elan SE Turbo
03 MG TF 135 Sprint (Partner's)
15 Renault Megane Coupe

If you can't be a good example, then you might as well be a terrible warning
User avatar
cliff
God
 
Posts: 800
Joined: Mon 17.01.2011, 18:39
Location: Preveza Greece / Scunthorpe UK

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby Greggry » Mon 09.01.2012, 21:56

Hi guys where can I buy this gear I gotta 3rd gear issue xxta
Greggry
Newbie
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun 03.04.2011, 11:09

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby HJ2 » Mon 09.01.2012, 22:19

Look 3 posts above and PM the bloke :poke: :-D
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got
User avatar
HJ2
Wodan - God of the Low Lands
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Fri 06.06.2008, 10:54
Location: Delft, the Netherlands

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby Greggry » Tue 10.01.2012, 13:01

Where can I buy these kits guys ???
Greggry
Newbie
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun 03.04.2011, 11:09

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby HJ2 » Tue 10.01.2012, 14:37

? I just told you :roll:

His name is Bob Brown and if you click on his avatar (now 5 posts up...) you can send him a personal message (PM)
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got
User avatar
HJ2
Wodan - God of the Low Lands
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Fri 06.06.2008, 10:54
Location: Delft, the Netherlands

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby bobbrown » Tue 10.01.2012, 15:35

Greggry wrote:Hi guys where can I buy this gear I gotta 3rd gear issue xxta


So what's the issue, if it is just resticted to 3rd then it may be something else other than cables or shift linkage, like loose nuts.

Bob
Pacific Blue N/A
" When you’re up to your arse in alligators, it’s difficult to remember that the object of the exercise is to drain the swamp"
please use email for correspondence
User avatar
bobbrown
God
 
Posts: 2804
Joined: Wed 10.05.2006, 12:51
Location: North Essex

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby Greggry » Tue 17.01.2012, 18:08

Just a crunch under pressure bob!! Doin my head in also my calliper has siezed need to find a seal kit and I'll get both stripped .... Unless you can buy the callipers at a good price .... Heeeeelp lol what would I do without you guys :-D
Greggry
Newbie
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun 03.04.2011, 11:09

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby rip » Tue 17.01.2012, 20:56

Greggry wrote:Just a crunch under pressure bob!!

My 3rd used to crunch when changing down to accelerate, but not when changing up.
Changing the gearbox oil regularly seems to have cured this.
1990 SE
User avatar
rip
God
 
Posts: 5893
Joined: Sun 08.04.2007, 07:48
Location: Milton Keynes, UK

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby DavidEJM » Thu 19.01.2012, 14:46

Anyone fancy fitting mine? I'm happy to pay, just haven't had the time and don't want to break anything.
Oooooh shiney!
User avatar
DavidEJM
Fanatic
 
Posts: 360
Joined: Tue 19.01.2010, 21:58
Location: Oxford

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby bobbrown » Thu 19.01.2012, 15:34

I'll fit any ones for a fee, beer tokens etc as long as they bring the car to me SG9 0JA.
Pacific Blue N/A
" When you’re up to your arse in alligators, it’s difficult to remember that the object of the exercise is to drain the swamp"
please use email for correspondence
User avatar
bobbrown
God
 
Posts: 2804
Joined: Wed 10.05.2006, 12:51
Location: North Essex

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby HJ2 » Thu 19.01.2012, 16:54

Same here, but you've got to cross the Chanel for that! :lol:
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got
User avatar
HJ2
Wodan - God of the Low Lands
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Fri 06.06.2008, 10:54
Location: Delft, the Netherlands

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby PECKHS » Fri 10.02.2012, 06:15

Hi I have just gotten hold of Bob's short shift, and my fitters are stumped!!
Bob has tried to help, but my fitters, being non-native english speakers, had trouble understanding the instructions :(
I would appreciate if someone/anyone can post some photos on how the parts look when fitted and where they are suppossed to be fitted.
Attach some photos which got them scratching their heads...

Image

i undertsand from Bob that this is to replace the fits on the fore/aft lever on the gearbox. however the fitters are not sure how to put it in. Appreciate an after pic for this

Image

this is to replace the crossgate bell crank in the selector housing at the gearbox. appreciate an after pic too

Image

4 of these nuts (together with the washers) are for fixing the cable to the bracket on the gearbox, and the other 2 is to be used with these at the gear lever end

Image

Image

correct me if I'm wrong on these,

and lastly,

Image

can I know which ball end goes to which cable

Apologise for the questions as I'm not really vry technically inclined, and my fitters don't really understand the terms I use for the parts

Many thanks in advance

And thanks Bob also for the fantastic brake kit! although my fitters forgot to fit the sleeves!!! Thanks for pointing that out to me...
The blue calipers matched my wheel nuts perfectly!

Cheers

Peck
PECKHS
Enthusiast
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri 03.09.2010, 10:34
Location: Singapore

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby Greggry » Sun 04.03.2012, 16:11

Hi bob ... And everyone

Finally refurbed my callipers with mega help from bob seals piston seals and sliders off a astra gsi 1.8 .... Was easy enough but wow the difference is amazing still got the 3rd gear issue thinking of what to do next also if anyong has red leather seats I'll have um ...
Just the interior to do and I'm off enjoying this summer haha :P
Greggry
Newbie
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun 03.04.2011, 11:09

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby PECKHS » Wed 07.03.2012, 07:02

Tks for the emails I received on my query...
my fitters finally managed to fit the short shift, and picked up the car today...
However, I am having difficulty engaging 1st and 2nd gear. I have to try few times before the 1st gear will engage, and then difficulty engaging 2nd gear from 1st. I realised that if I was to engage 5th prior to 1st and 2nd, I have no problems.
Also difficulty down shifting from 3rd to 2nd...
Anyone has encountered this problem? What may be the cause ?
My fitters claimed that they followed Bob's instruction, so if they really did, what might have gone wrong?
Please help.
Thanks.

Peck
PECKHS
Enthusiast
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri 03.09.2010, 10:34
Location: Singapore

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby rip » Wed 07.03.2012, 09:48

Short shift should not create any selection issues.
It should be a little stiffer simply because the throw is shorter & you don't get anything for nothing.

Your issue sounds like the geartrain nut starting to come loose. This is an easy fix if you address it in time, although it does involve removing the gearbox end cover.
1990 SE
User avatar
rip
God
 
Posts: 5893
Joined: Sun 08.04.2007, 07:48
Location: Milton Keynes, UK

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby HJ2 » Wed 07.03.2012, 10:06

What do you mean exactly with 'difficulties' ?
What do you feel or hear? Is the feedback the same for all problems?
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got
User avatar
HJ2
Wodan - God of the Low Lands
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Fri 06.06.2008, 10:54
Location: Delft, the Netherlands

Re: Bob's cables together with Dave's (now Bob's) Shortshift

Postby PECKHS » Wed 07.03.2012, 11:08

Sorted!
They put 2 washers on the same side instead of 1 on each side on the selector side...
Tks for the advise
PECKHS
Enthusiast
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri 03.09.2010, 10:34
Location: Singapore

PreviousNext

Return to Upgrades

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron