Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

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Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby simonbuk » Mon 11.04.2016, 20:44

Has anybody got a picture of a genuine M100 car jack ?

Don't think the jack in my car is original and just searched on ebay and there is a guy selling two completely different types of jacks saying both are from an Elan M100 !!

Think not !!
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby tb10 » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:11

Hi Simon

I have both types and I think the top one is the latter S2 jack.


Clearly I'll be corrected should I be incorrect!!

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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby John_W » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:13

Your bottom picture is a standard SE jack, handle and wheelbrace. Your top picture may be a S2 jack, but that design is rubbish anyway, so I'd go for the SE version.
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Kathryn » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:26

I've got the top one in my S2. I've had it out numerous times, not to jack the car up, but to mop up the water that accumulates in the recess beneath it!
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Simon_P » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:29

Both elan jacks.
Top is S2

They have different mountings in the cill so you are best to get the correct one.

They also have different storage in the boot. So again better to get the right one
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby simonbuk » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:33

Oh ok. So if the top one is indeed an S2 jack it looks like it goes over the edge of a sill ?

I thought reading from guides on here there was almost a conical shape to go into a recess ?
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Rambo » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:41

SE's have four jacking points. There is a cone shaped bolt in the centre of the jacking point which fits into the hole in the SE scissor jack - see 2nd photo

S2's have only 2 jacking points at the front. Can't comment on the scissor jack in the 1st photo as I've never seen one
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Simon_P » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:43

Simon. You describe the se jack mounting which fits the hole in the top of the scissor jack. The second photo is a scissor jack.

The S2 jack pad has a flat pad with 2 vertical prongs. These locate in the mounting on the jack that is 90 degrees out in the picture.
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Rambo » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:45

Kathryn wrote:I've got the top one in my S2. I've had it out numerous times, not to jack the car up, but to mop up the water that accumulates in the recess beneath it!


I'd have thought a sponge would be better ? :lol:
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Simon_P » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:48

You should have a metal bracket by the spare in the boot -They are unobtainable and they rust
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Rambo » Mon 11.04.2016, 21:58

Simon - well worth reading the link below before you doing any jacking up in case of any mishaps :oops:

http://wikilec.9600.org/index.php/Jacking_Points

And remember, if you ever take your car into a garage that is unfamiliar with an M100, show the diagram/write up to the mechanic
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby simonbuk » Mon 11.04.2016, 22:02

Simon_P wrote:You should have a metal bracket by the spare in the boot -They are unobtainable and they rust


To the right of the spare I have a foam piece like this -
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Rambo » Mon 11.04.2016, 22:05

Looks like my SE jack holder. Thought you had an S2 ?
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Giniw » Mon 11.04.2016, 22:18

Rambo wrote:S2's have only 2 jacking points at the front.
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How does one change a rear wheel then?! Is the S2 jack that huge?
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Rambo » Mon 11.04.2016, 22:27

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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby simonbuk » Mon 11.04.2016, 23:04

Rambo wrote:Looks like my SE jack holder. Thought you had an S2 ?


Yes I do !! I've got the wrong jack holder, and a jack that looks nothing like any of the above !!
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Giniw » Mon 11.04.2016, 23:49

Rambo > thanks.
Is there a reason the S2 has only two body jacking points?
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby lotusflasherman » Tue 12.04.2016, 00:41

SE has front & rear conical jack posts that 'jack with hole' locates on.
Front
front cone.jpg

Rear
rear post.jpg


I use rubber discs (Ice hockey pucks) with holes drilled in them to locate on those conical posts to lift entire car with the aid of a galvanized box section I cut in half to make 2 channels ...
on lift.jpg


Not sure how that would work on S2 without rear jacking posts... :?
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Giniw » Tue 12.04.2016, 01:44

Not sure how that would work on S2 without rear jacking posts... :?
Yes, that's a very strange choice in my own opinion. (given that the SE had four)
Maybe they wanted to add some lightness! :-D
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Re: Not wheels and tyres but car jack !!

Postby Rambo » Tue 12.04.2016, 08:51

There is enough stiffness in the chassis to lift both wheels off the ground using the front jacking point, allegedly !! Given how our front jacking points are prone to weakness after 25 years of rusting away this is not something I would recommend however :|

Personally I feel much safer anyway using a trolley jack rather than a scissor jack. But, used correctly, a scissor jack has its merits for a quick tyre change
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