Extreme Wear on Inside edge

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Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Simon_P » Sun 01.05.2016, 16:42

My front tyres exhibited normal wear but now have worn severely on the inside edge. They are at the end of there life anyway so no great expense.
Also the car seemed to wander on ruts etc.

Tracking checked
Camber checked
Raft bushes replaced

Front suspension now on the bench - No sign of wear in the ball joints top ones have only done a few thousand miles, bearings ok, bushes look reasonable steering has no slack... ideas?
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Simon_P » Sun 01.05.2016, 17:08

"The image must be at least 0 pixels wide, 0 pixels high and at most 1024 pixels wide and 768 pixels high. The submitted image is 1280 pixels wide and 720 pixels high."

I got it down to 132k now I have too many pixels... My this is hard work to post a photograph! 1280x720 is a standard size!
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby simonbuk » Sun 01.05.2016, 17:49

Have to agree that this site/forum is crap for posting pictures and such, lots of better ways of doing it and should allow slightly large size.

I've used this before now -

http://jpeg-optimizer.com
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 01.05.2016, 17:53

Basically, the only thing that will wear the inside of BOTH tires is too much toe-out. The odds of having the caster or camber out the same amount is pretty slim. The toe-in / toe-out is controlled by the track rods and you might find the outer ends are OK, but what about the inner joints? Something like HJ's latest issues? Static measurements don't reflect dynamic changes all the time.

I use Microsoft Office Picture Manager 2003 to resize photos for the forum. Really easy...

You can email me the picture and I will send it back resized, if that will help...
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 01.05.2016, 18:03

Simon_P wrote:"The image must be at least 0 pixels wide, 0 pixels high and at most 1024 pixels wide and 768 pixels high. The submitted image is 1280 pixels wide and 720 pixels high."

I got it down to 132k now I have too many pixels... My this is hard work to post a photograph! 1280x720 is a standard size!

You can also use File manager in Windows XP and drill down to the file and Right-Click on it and there is an option to resize it to several standard sizes including 1024 x 768.

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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Simon_P » Sun 01.05.2016, 20:21

Brit-Car-Nut wrote:I use Microsoft Office Picture Manager 2003 to resize photos for the forum. Really easy...

Yes really easy, but I "Upgraded" to office 2016" and it isn't there anymore.
Brit-Car-Nut wrote:You can also use File manager in Windows XP and drill down to the file and Right

"Upgraded to Windows 10" Not there any more!

But you can resize in "Paint"

Tracking was fine - checked front twice.
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 01.05.2016, 20:42

Still looks like excessive toe-out. Please check the track rods at the rack.
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Simon_P » Sun 01.05.2016, 22:33

All absolutely fine John, and the rest of the tyre is evenly worn with no feathering

I'm coming to the conclusion that the tyre wore normally then the area by the shoulder became too thin so it couldn't support the tyre so it has sat on the wall and worn right on the shoulder it isn't evenly worn on the circumference and I can press it in by hand.
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sun 01.05.2016, 23:17

Weird it would happen evenly on both sides. Time for new tires then...
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Elanlover » Sun 01.05.2016, 23:45

A lot of spirited driving in the corners?
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Rambo » Mon 02.05.2016, 08:20

How old were the tyres Simon ? And what mileage ? If you'd had them a long time and they'd done relatively high mileage then probably not a big deal. You will certainly notice a difference in handling with new rubbers anyway :burnout:

My yellow one showed similar characteristics and I didn't know the previous history but I did have the last alignment check. They had been set up for relatively aggressive tracking so I got the garage to reset so that the camber, toe etc fell within the original M100 spec and it's now great for spirited driving on our deserted and twisty country roads :burnout:
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Simon_P » Mon 02.05.2016, 11:59

Tyres - Fully worn and 2005. I changed them and I remember thinking wow what a difference.

I did reduce the camber thinking that may have been the problem. Toe was mid band.

I've got a set of bushes bearings and ball joints, but reluctant to change most of them as they all seem ok and I'd just be creating work. I've already binned 60 quids worth of front bearings with no wear just by taking them out - I hoped it might have been caused by them.
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Rusty Wishbone » Mon 02.05.2016, 12:16

What wheels are you using? I have lovely looking 17 inch Compomotive wheels which don't have a big enough offset and they tramline quite a lot.
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Giniw » Mon 02.05.2016, 12:38

A friend of mine had a similar symptom on his Audi A3.
Apparently It was considered as normal with thin tyres.

But still I find it strange.
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Rambo » Mon 02.05.2016, 12:57

Simon_P wrote:Tyres - Fully worn and 2005. I changed them and I remember thinking wow what a difference.

I did reduce the camber thinking that may have been the problem. Toe was mid band.

I've got a set of bushes bearings and ball joints, but reluctant to change most of them as they all seem ok and I'd just be creating work. I've already binned 60 quids worth of front bearings with no wear just by taking them out - I hoped it might have been caused by them.


So, tyres are 11 years old and, I guess, approx 22k - 30k miles ? Well past their best anyway :roll: I'm surprised sidewalls aren't perished after that time too ??
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Simon_P » Mon 02.05.2016, 13:33

Several of those 11 years were in a barn. 25k plus a "driving day". I've had my money's worth.

The rubber is still soft and good - no cracks
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Re: Extreme Wear on Inside edge

Postby Rambo » Mon 02.05.2016, 13:45

They don't owe you anything then Simon :burnout:
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