Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

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Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby simonbuk » Wed 07.09.2016, 21:52

Just thinking what with all these stupid prices for sets of S2 wheels, does anybody have locking wheels nuts on their cars ?

I take it they are not Lotus specific but just have to be the right sized bolt ?
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Rambo » Wed 07.09.2016, 22:04

I have them on both my cars with S2 wheels

Also had them on the original SE Rambo Collapso Red

For the sake of £20-30 ,.............
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Rambo » Wed 07.09.2016, 22:08

From memory my S2 ones were by a company called MacGuard ?? I bought them in Halfords. Same goes for the SE but a different name. Can check once back in God's own country
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Elanlover » Wed 07.09.2016, 22:24

I believe you mean locking "bolts" but yes, I bought some when I ordered some custom wheels. Frankly, given how cheaply you can buy them on ebay for everyone should use them. The right length, thread size and pitch and whether they are conical or ball seat are what you need to look at. Also, make sure you can get at least one extra matching key for them. I have 3 - one in the trunk hidden away, one in the garage and one in the house. You don't want to find out you lost the key one day and have to resort to a drill and large bit to remove them.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Giniw » Wed 07.09.2016, 22:27

I read somewhere that this kind of universal socket would unscrew them anyway. Never tried though.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Elanlover » Wed 07.09.2016, 22:39

Possibly. Might have to buy one and try it - on someone else's car though. My take on wheel locks is that they are a great deterrent for your run of the mill thief. Anyone who is serious about stealing your wheels will find a way around them. You're just making it harder not invincible. Still a good idea though.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Giniw » Wed 07.09.2016, 22:56

I agree, if it's cheap and slows the thief then it can't be bad.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby lotusflasherman » Thu 08.09.2016, 00:01

These are what I use... correct thread, correct angle, nice price. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390909169785

(Now waiting for Dave Eds to tell me nobody would steal my wheels anyway... :lol: )
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Thu 08.09.2016, 03:17

lotusflasherman wrote:These are what I use... correct thread, correct angle, nice price. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390909169785

(Now waiting for Dave Eds to tell me nobody would steal my wheels anyway... :lol: )


For the S2, they will be OK, for the SE, the spanner/socket size for the "key" is 17mm, not 19mm, so you would have to carry an extra wheel brace - or you could also buy 12 S2 lug bolts and a 17mm brace...
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby lotusflasherman » Thu 08.09.2016, 03:30

Brit-Car-Nut wrote:
lotusflasherman wrote:These are what I use... correct thread, correct angle, nice price. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390909169785

(Now waiting for Dave Eds to tell me nobody would steal my wheels anyway... :lol: )


For the S2, they will be OK, for the SE, the spanner/socket size for the "key" is 17mm, not 19mm, so you would have to carry an extra wheel brace - or you could also buy 12 S2 lug bolts and a 17mm brace...


Look at the picture of the key at the very bottom of the page and you'll see it's designed for either a 17mm or 19mm to work. I've got 17mm bolts anyway as I run non-standard (orange) wheels and carry an extending ratchet handle with sockets rather than a brace.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Dave Eds » Thu 08.09.2016, 05:55

lotusflasherman wrote:These are what I use... correct thread, correct angle, nice price. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390909169785

(Now waiting for Dave Eds to tell me nobody would steal my wheels anyway... :lol: )



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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Saltire » Thu 08.09.2016, 07:09

Rambo wrote:I have them on both my cars with S2 wheels

Also had them on the original SE Rambo Collapso Red

For the sake of £20-30 ,.............

:agree: I too have the McGard ones, bought off eBay for a very reasonable sum. I believe they were advertised as being for the BMW Mini, but they work fine on the S2. Only problem is that they make the original bolts look *very* dirty indeed. Must get round to some bolt caps :D
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Nickydee » Thu 08.09.2016, 08:22

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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby lotusflasherman » Thu 08.09.2016, 09:59

Saltire wrote:
Rambo wrote:I have them on both my cars with S2 wheels

Also had them on the original SE Rambo Collapso Red

For the sake of £20-30 ,.............

:agree: I too have the McGard ones, bought off eBay for a very reasonable sum. I believe they were advertised as being for the BMW Mini, but they work fine on the S2. Only problem is that they make the original bolts look *very* dirty indeed. Must get round to some bolt caps :D



Got these to go with new lock bolts. Best value I could find and gave me 4 spares :lol:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-x-alloy-wheel-bolts-nuts-lugs-M12-x-1-5-17mm-Hex-24mm-thread-taper-seat-/281637593480
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby dapinky » Thu 08.09.2016, 10:38

Just to throw an altwernative arguement into the mix......

..... as most locking nuts/bolts can be fairly easily removed with a 'Universal' tool, I see little point in having them.

I just got a set of black 17mm bolts from ebay (saves using plastic covers) and fitted them.

A casual thief is unlikely to nick your wheels, and anyone who is after them properly would likely come prepared with the right tools.

A cheap alternative is to fit 2 17mm bolts and 2 19mm bolts (not on an S2!) - it is less likely that they will carry 2 wheelbraces than a 'tool' - but still deter the casual thief (for peace of mind).

If my wheels do get nicked, then I'd be more upset about the tyres than the wheels - but the insurance will cover it anyway, with no inconvenience to me when taking wheels off and on.

Until the insurance start to demand them, I won't be using them.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby lotusflasherman » Thu 08.09.2016, 13:18

dapinky wrote:Just to throw an altwernative arguement into the mix......

..... as most locking nuts/bolts can be fairly easily removed with a 'Universal' tool, I see little point in having them.

I just got a set of black 17mm bolts from ebay (saves using plastic covers) and fitted them.

A casual thief is unlikely to nick your wheels, and anyone who is after them properly would likely come prepared with the right tools.

A cheap alternative is to fit 2 17mm bolts and 2 19mm bolts (not on an S2!) - it is less likely that they will carry 2 wheelbraces than a 'tool' - but still deter the casual thief (for peace of mind).

If my wheels do get nicked, then I'd be more upset about the tyres than the wheels - but the insurance will cover it anyway, with no inconvenience to me when taking wheels off and on.

Until the insurance start to demand them, I won't be using them.


When in my garage I always use a spider wheel brace with coloured tape added to show me which the 19mm and 17mm sockets are, otherwise Sod's Law says it's always the last you try.
Spins the nuts/bolts out very quickly and reckon that would be the first choice of wheel thieves. Not sure a combination of 17 & 19 would slow them down much, it wouldn't me :-D

I'm told by my daughter and Spud that nobody would want to steal my orange wheels anyway so maybe that's the best solution .. :lol:
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby dapinky » Thu 08.09.2016, 14:06

Phil,

yep, a spider would be the weapon of choice - but I'll just stick to 4 x 17mm nuts anyway......

...... if mine get nicked and then a set of black OZ wheels turn up on ebay with Yokahama tyres I may think "Now there's a coincidence!"

If a thief wants them to resell, they're apealing to a limited market, and if they want to weigh them in for scrap, there are much bigger and heavier (therefore worth more as scrap) wheels in any car park they want to frequent.
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby Jon » Thu 08.09.2016, 15:24

I purchased these a couple of years ago (the listing is expired so you have to scroll down):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Locking-Wheel-Bolts-Extended-Thread-33mm-Thread-M12x1-5-/300739944639?nma=true&si=1MTv7SrkYoPItzKTM1DPFCLRmeE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

They work a treat on my S2.

Though I had to replace all the other bolts at the same time to get a consistent level of shininess!

I'd originally purchased 40mm long bolts (I think they were easier to come by) but they were fractionally too long and jammed on something (metal strut) when the wheel turned (or in fact then didn't turn!).


Seem to be plenty of similar options on e-Bay http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=BMW+Locking+Wheel+Bolts+Extended+Thread%2C+33mm+Thread+M12x1.5&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XBMW+Locking+Wheel+Bolts+Extended+Thread%2C+Thread+M12x1.5.TRS0&_nkw=BMW+Locking+Wheel+Bolts+Extended+Thread%2C+Thread+M12x1.5&_sacat=0

I have a feeling that the standard Lotus bolt length is shorter - but I have AP discs on the front which mean mine need to be slightly longer? (I may be wrong!)
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby ab2cv » Thu 08.09.2016, 15:41

S2 wheel bolt spec

M12 x 1.5
17mm Hex
60 degree taper
25.5mm


McGard part numbers
27179 is the equivalent to OEM
27015 is what I required because I have spacers on the front for AP brakes.


27179 25.5mm* (17mm Hex)
27191 27.9mm tuner (17mm Hex)
27221 27.9mm (17mm Hex)
27015 31.8mm** (17mm Hex)
27111 36.3mm (21mm Hex)
27013 40.4mm (17mm Hex)
27014 49.2mm (17mm Hex)

*oem equivalent
**fronts with spacers
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Re: Does anybody have locking wheel nuts on their car ?

Postby simonbuk » Thu 08.09.2016, 17:15

Wow, this turned into a detailed thread !! I'm sure I have a couple of sets of bolts in the garage as thats what reminded me. I'll check those first before getting a set.
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