Sump from Isuzu??

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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby GeoffSmith » Mon 20.05.2013, 20:12

Just wondered if there was enough taper on the sump to stack them to reduce the volume. Anyone with two spare sumps care to check it out?
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Mon 20.05.2013, 20:21

I believe there are baffles inside that would minimize stacking. I have contacted a broker in Japan to see what they can do for 15 pieces. I don't expect that will get anyone's attention, but it is worth a try.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby m100sandra » Mon 20.05.2013, 21:05

Wouldnt it be worth contacting such as SJ re: a group buy, No's might speed things up a bit, I need to check on my PC but ime sure i got quoted £130 somthing???? As mentioned prev it might just speed things up if Lotus know they have sales........
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby alan e » Mon 20.05.2013, 21:31

i have just checked my spare sump there is a baffle about 60 mm down from the fixing lip in the deeper part of the sump so stacking is not possible.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Jeemy » Mon 20.05.2013, 21:55

I do get surprisingly good courier rates, spend about £30k/annum.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby m100sandra » Mon 20.05.2013, 22:16

Seems a bit silly getting them via the US if Lotus have them on there books for a similar price :roll: Just checked the price quoted from SJ (Lotus) was 137.77 Pounds + vat.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Jeemy » Mon 20.05.2013, 22:25

I buy tons from the US - works out about half-price usually, even with customs.

If they are £130 from Lotus via a dealer, say £135 shipped, and $130 US each in the US. Say we could get 1w for $1300 (assuming no discount) and they are 60x30x20 each, (assuming no stacking), they'd be 60x1.2mx80cm, roughly the size of a guitar cabinet which is pretty heavy, say 35kg, I've had guitar cabs shipped for way under $200.

So $1500 total, approx 23% import tax is $1,845, current exchange rate makes £1,209. £100 per sump. Maybe too much bother for only a saving of 25%, but I'd be happy to handle the shipping. And if there is any stacking, even tiling, and any weight benefit, even better.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Mon 20.05.2013, 22:38

I asked DBE as they list them in their price book but Ken said he has tried to order before and they never arrive. Their price was $260.67.

Maybe the agent in Japan will reply to my request.

Right now, the nearest Geo Storm sump is around 1.5 hours away and I will have to remove it. That yard also has an Impulse, so I am trying to find the time to go there.

If I can get to it, I will be able to confirm the sumps interchange. Sorry, last year there were over 40 GEO GSI's that passed thru the local yard and I didn't need one so I never looked.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby m100sandra » Mon 20.05.2013, 22:46

Ill send SJ a email to ask if a group buy would speed things up and if they could offer a discount? worth a try as a option.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Jeemy » Mon 20.05.2013, 23:40

SJ seem to be able to order all other parts from Lotus - I've been waiting for lots of little things that are on back order from Lotus - so presumably there is some kind of minimum order for sumps that Lotus don't feel is worth it - surely something a group buy can overcome. Look forward to hearing where we get to.
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby GeoffSmith » Tue 21.05.2013, 09:51

m100sandra wrote:Ill send SJ a email to ask if a group buy would speed things up and if they could offer a discount? worth a try as a option.


It would be better to get an idea of numbers first... time for a list?

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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby m100sandra » Tue 21.05.2013, 10:04

GeoffSmith wrote:
m100sandra wrote:Ill send SJ a email to ask if a group buy would speed things up and if they could offer a discount? worth a try as a option.


It would be better to get an idea of numbers first... time for a list?

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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby woody » Tue 21.05.2013, 10:07

It would be better to get an idea of numbers first... time for a list?


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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Jeemy » Tue 21.05.2013, 11:23

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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Tue 21.05.2013, 12:35

I hate to upset the apple cart, but the broker I contacted replied and said there is only 1 oil pan in Isuzu's stock and it appears that Isuzu is not going to continue production once it is gone.

If they take the order for 15, then 14 will be backordered and the minimum lead time is 20 to 30 days to receive at his office in Japan. He said that if I wanted the one sump, it would take 8 to 11 days for me to receive it either in the US or the UK.

The cost for a purchase to the US for the one part in stock is $353.05 including EMS shipping and for him to ship it to the UK is JY36,105 (£240.00 if the Yen remains at it's current rate). He quoted me in Japanese Yen and US Dollars.

I have asked him to confirm if the single sump is all there is or if 15 pieces would be available.

Thank you for inquiry.
I don't know if we can help you yet. The oil pan is available, but Isuzu just have only one unit in the stock now. The vehicle is supposed to be an older one like GEMINI. I know you requested 15 units, but Isuzu may be planning to discontinue providing the oil pan if someone purchase the only one unit in the stock. Even if 15 units were still available, 14 units are back order and 20-30 days are required at the least probably to deliver the parts to our office.

Please see enclosed spreadsheet (Microsoft Excel : if you can't open it, please let me know), and then confirm the contents. Also, please find tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet (refer to enclosed sample). The spreadsheet contains 2 quotes. Please select a quote you prefer.
Delivery takes time for around 8-11 days in total after you placed the order (payment). There is no so much difference in delivery period between USA and UK.


I don't really need a sump, but I don't mind having a spare. I was doing this to see about a direct Group Buy from Isuzu.

Is anyone interested in an oil sump at that price?
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby Steve A » Tue 21.05.2013, 15:58

So the worst case scenario is no more sumps available :cry: :smt102

It's not the end of the world, far from it.

It's just a bowl stamped out of sheet metal which can easily be repaired or better still modified :smt023

The difficult part to manufacture is still sound. :wink:
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby daveiow » Tue 21.05.2013, 16:49

I am inclined to agree with Steve.
It depends on wether you want a "concours" vehicle with a new sump or you repair your existing one and make it more robust in the process.
I am inclined to the latter course of action .
However I also wish to express my thanks to all who have put in time and trouble to investigate this issue especially if they are not in need at the present time.
I would also be willing to participate in a future group buy (depending on price) if it happened :D

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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby m100sandra » Tue 21.05.2013, 20:10

It still would be good to run a list up though and then see what can be done re: availability & price...
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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby paulsmithmk » Tue 21.05.2013, 21:31

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Re: Sump from Isuzu??

Postby paulsmithmk » Tue 21.05.2013, 21:32

daveiow wrote:I am inclined to agree with Steve.
It depends on wether you want a "concours" vehicle with a new sump or you repair your existing one and make it more robust in the process.
I am inclined to the latter course of action .
However I also wish to express my thanks to all who have put in time and trouble to investigate this issue especially if they are not in need at the present time.
I would also be willing to participate in a future group buy (depending on price) if it happened :D

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