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Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby clemo » Wed 17.05.2017, 09:59

Hi all ,

Engine out so seems a logical time to put a new clutch in ... (96 N S2)

Any best buys ?
From who ?

saw this one ... anyone have any thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOTUS-ELAN-1- ... I_lEDb2xNg

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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby dapinky » Wed 17.05.2017, 10:32

Exedy are a good make, and I believe that there was a bit of a 'group buy' on some of their clutches many years ago (before I was on the forum).

That said, I am sure that there are different 'qualities' within their range, and I don't know where this one fits.

The price seems high to me (but maybe because I paid $33 for mine last year as a 'closeout' from Rock Autos on a Valeo unit.

I wish to draw your attention to RA website though - they are listing clutches for the Impulse Turbo, BUT they are wrong for the Elan, so don't just buy blindly from them.

The Turbo Elan uses an 8 7/8" driven plate, whilst the NA uses a 7 7/8" plate. Both have the same fittments to the flywheel and gearbox splines, but (obviously) one is much bigger surface area.... I don't know if the Impulse Turbo had the larger or smaller one, but they list the smaller on their site for all Isuzu engines.

FYI, the Valeo part numbers (for the 3-part complete kit) are:-

# 52252802 for the one i bought - correct for Elan Turbo

# 52252202 for the smaller one (for the NA)

As you can see, only one digit different on the number, but a big difference in the car.
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby dapinky » Wed 17.05.2017, 11:07

Having just had a squint, I see that RA have a selection of kits in the right size - including a Exedy 09017 at £132.85..... but the internet shows that to be an 8 1/2" plate (215mm).

Further research shows a LuK kit with the same numeric part number (09017) - at a very reasonable £83.35 from RA....... and by looking everywhere on t'interweb, they say that they don't list a kit for an elan.......

.... however, the 09017 is for the Impulse turbo, and has the 8 1/2" disc, with the correct splines.

As such, I conclude that it will (probably!) be the right one.

LuK are a well-known and respected brand - and are OE suppliers for VW/Audi Group cars (whether that is good or bad, is for you to discern).


Bottom line - I wouldn't get the one you linked to when the same can be got elsewhere cheaper (but will take a few days to get here).

If it were me, I'd buy the LuK kit

(except I wouldn't, as I still have my Valeo kit sitting in the conservatory - - so, basically, if you need it in a hurry you have a limited choice in the UK......

......... unless someone who has one is happy for you to have theirs on the understanding that you replaced it with a suitable - possibly LuK - kit once it arrives from RA.)



even bottomer line - it appears that Lotus did their usual trick of 'parts bin engineering' for the clutch on the elan - the part numbers as referred to above are standard bits on the Isuzu 1.8 engine as used in the Impulse (and others) - - maybe they thought the Impulse 1.6 unit was going to be too small for the torque in a lighter car?????)
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby Simon_P » Wed 17.05.2017, 16:16

The correct clutch plate has six coil springs in it the (usually) cheaper ones have four.
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby HJ2 » Wed 17.05.2017, 21:22

I used the Exedy kit from RA 2 times now without any complaints
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby Rambo » Wed 17.05.2017, 21:50

HJ2 wrote:I used the Exedy kit from RA 2 times now without any complaints


Twice ??

In over 40 years driving all sorts of vehicles (over 850,000 miles) I've never ever had to replace a clutch

Plenty of discs and pads, but never a clutch :?
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby HJ2 » Wed 17.05.2017, 22:45

Not on the same car you dummy :lol:

When the car has more than 100k kilometres and the gearbox needs to come off for some reason, I prefer to exchange the clutch as well.
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby Rambo » Thu 18.05.2017, 09:32

A good idea if the gearbox has to come out :wink:
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby clemo » Thu 18.05.2017, 11:33

speedy from rock autos it is then .

thanks guys
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby chrisP » Tue 24.04.2018, 18:01

A quick update the LUK 09017 Clutch kit is no good for our cars, despite being advertised on Rockauto as being a 8 7/8" clutch plate it is in fact 8 1/2" - After taking 22 days to arrive!!!!
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby chrisP » Tue 24.04.2018, 18:02

It also seems no matter what one you buy, the pressure plate is the same (marked up as DK)
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Tue 24.04.2018, 18:21

"More Info from Rock Auto:"
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Clutch Disc Diameter 8-7/8"
Clutch Disc Spline Quantity 14
Clutch Plate Facing Outer Diameter 8-1/2"
Input Shaft Diameter 1"
Kit Contents Cover Assembly, Clutch Disc, Release Bearing, all Necessary Pilots, Accessory Pack
Number of clutch disc springs 4
Pressure Plate Type Push Type Diaphragm

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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby chrisP » Wed 25.04.2018, 10:37

I have had problems with the Valeo clutch slipping, however after taking the gearbox off there are no signs of why this is happening. So now as I cannot return the Luk clutch as it is outside Rockautos 30 day return window (and taking 22 days to arrive :shock: ) I suspect the clutch spring is faulty in the existing cover plate so will replace it with the one from the Luk kit and use my old (2000 mile) clutch plate.

I have three pressure plates from different clutch suppliers which are in fact exactly the same item.

Thanks for looking at Rockauto again for me though.

I just wanted to make sure no one else made the same mistake

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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby RonR » Wed 25.04.2018, 13:28

Thanks for flagging the problems with the LUK clutches Chris.

I've just ordered a Sachs K7004701 kit from RA, more expensive but the "info" photo shows 6 diaphragm springs so it looks right....
Strangely the photo also shows a "Valeo" marking on the plate, so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed when opening the box.

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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby chrisP » Wed 25.04.2018, 16:46

Check the size as soon as it arrives Ron, so you are not in the same 'no return' situation that I am in. Is yours being shipped from the States?
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby RonR » Thu 26.04.2018, 11:24

Yes, looks like it's coming from Texas and due to arrive early next week.

I'll post here when I've checked it.
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby RonR » Mon 30.04.2018, 18:03

The Sachs K7004701 clutch kit has now arrived, and:
Both the cover and the plate are 8 7/8 diameter and the plate has 6 springs:
Sachs Clutch Plate.jpg

So it looks like it's the right one.

Thanks again Chris, and good luck with yours.
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Re: Clutch replacement / who has used what ?

Postby marvic » Mon 30.04.2018, 23:04

Just looked in my box of bits that came with my car and I’ve got a new kit of the same part number so should be fine. My car has a lightened flywheel and a race type clutch so this one was never used.
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