CAMPING WEEKEND WITH OPTIONAL TRACKDAY

[nchase]

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Those Elise are dam quick round them corners and the track looks spot on for what we need [/quote]

I have done Bedford in my Elan on a LOT track day with the Seloc crew and it was great fun and would do it again. There really is nothing to hit, plenty of grass run off's etc. Of course that doesn't mean you can't do damage, but you would have to have been pretty stupid.

The Elan held up very well and whilst it cannot compete with the Elise, all the drivers were impressed with the way the Elan held it's own.

[John_W]

The Elan held up very well and whilst it cannot compete with the Elise, all the drivers were impressed with the way the Elan held it's own.

Nick,

Out of interest, where did you find the Elise had the advantage?

Acceleration? Top speed? Carrying speed through corners? Handling characteristics (understeer/oversteer)? Braking? Turbo lag? Weight?

John

[chris.t]

speed thru corners imo and braking into corners

[Monty]

Well i`ve just recieved this today

Clicky

[chris.t]

good buy unknowncarper

Actually good point you will need a helmet if you're going on track

[stevieshag]

Ive got a helmet, & its been well used..


i used to have a motorbike

[chris.t]

Ive got a helmet, & its been well used..

Might want to use some ointment on it Steve or have you stopped using it now

[Monty]

Ive got a helmet, & its been well used..

Might want to use some ointment on it Steve or have you stopped using it now

he can`t, it fell off LMAO

Don`t know if all tracks are the same but at Oulton park there are regs on open top cars ie full face helmet, gloves and rollbar have a read off this:-

Noise and vehicle restrictions

All vehicles must conform to MOT minimum standards for road use, or MSA current safety and silencing regulations: (and may be subject to testing before taking part in any on track activity)

Cars: Saloon & Sports Cars - 105dB(A) measured statically at 0.5metres and 45deg angle, at ¾ maximum rpm
In cases where the vehicle has two separated exhausts the measurement will be taken as above form the median point between the two.
No race engines may be run before 0900hrs or after 1730hrs without permission from the venue office.
All vehicles must be suitable for the purpose of intended use, and it is the participants’ duty to ensure that the vehicle remains in this condition for the duration of the activity.

Requirements/Safety

All participants must wear crash helmets of a recognised manufacture and complying with the current Safety Requirements of the BSI 6658-85A or BSI 6658 –85A/FR, or MSA/ACU/FIM/FIA standards. In the case of single seater vehicles and open top cars a full-face crash helmet must be worn which complies with the current BSI, MSA/FIA standards. All helmets must be correctly fitted.

Seat belts or harnesses must be worn at all times on the venue.
Arms and legs must be covered whilst on Circuit.
If you have any problems with any other drivers on the day, please report to the organisers or the Control Tower Supervisor.
No participant shall consume or be under the influence of alcohol at any time.
No participant shall be under the influence of drugs / medication (prescribed or otherwise) or have any pre-existing medical condition noticeable under the appropriate Road Traffic Acts that will adversely affect his or her performance.
No timekeeping or pace making of any sort is allowed on the Track Day.
No driver in an open top car will be allowed on circuit without wearing gloves, and a ‘Full Face’ helmet.
Open top cars will only be permitted when fitted with a full MSA/FIA approved roll safety device, or other road homologated roll over safety device. Road homologated vehicles which do not have the above by virtue of their manufactured date, but which are still in standard road homologated specification are also permitted

So next thing are some cheap gloves


ps think we could do with section dedicated to trackdays were experienced people can give advice and have sub headings for different tracks just a thought!

[jimp357]

Don't know if all tracks are the same but at Oulton park there are regs on open top cars ie full face helmet, gloves and rollbar have a read off this:-

......Open top cars will only be permitted when fitted with a full MSA/FIA approved roll safety device, or other road homologated roll over safety device. Road homologated vehicles which do not have the above by virtue of their manufactured date, but which are still in standard road homologated specification are also permitted

So we don't need roll bars then

[Dico]

Could well be up for this-

If I do come Chris could you pull over a little earlier this time for me to overtake?

Don't worry, Chris, You'll catch him up once you get to anything that resembles a corner....

Cheeky feker

[davidjt]

Don't bother about the gloves - it's always on the disclaimer/regs sheet, but only enforced for single seaters; helmets can always be hired on the day.

[Costas]

Count me in.

Now if I travel all the way from Greece and back and dont allow me in for some noise restiction rule, I really dont know what vocabulary I will use on them.

COSTAS

[chris.t]

They do have a noise restriction. I think its 98dB - Can anyone confirm?

[theelanman]

Cars: Saloon & Sports Cars - 105dB(A) measured statically at 0.5metres and 45deg angle, at ¾ maximum rpm

this was on the stuff monty posted about oulton.......I presume everywhere else is the same......

[chris.t]

Cars: Saloon & Sports Cars - 105dB(A) measured statically at 0.5metres and 45deg angle, at ¾ maximum rpm

this was on the stuff monty posted about oulton.......I presume everywhere else is the same......

not necessarily, depends on the local council who grant the licenses etc.

This is from the Bedford wedsite

"At Bedford Autodrome we have two noise tests. First your car will be subjected to a static test, in which the noise level is measured 50cm away from your exhaust pipe with the engine at 75% of maximum rpm. The reading must not exceed 101 dB(A).

Secondly, and more significantly, your car must comply with our drive-by noise limits. The noise emission from your car must not exceed 87 dB(A) measured 20 metres from your car, which shall be accelerating maximally at over 60 mph.

All standard volume production cars will pass this test with ease, so, for example, if you have a standard Audi, BMW, Porsche, Subaru or Mitsubishi you will have no problems at all. The drive-by level will probably be less than 80 dB(A).

Cars, which tend to fail the test include most bike-engined cars, eg Westfields, Radicals and Caterhams, plus cars fitted with particularly loud “high performance” exhausts, as sometimes fitted to, for example, Caterhams, Lotuses, TVRs and Subarus.

If you are at all concerned that your car may not pass, it is advisable to either come to Bedford Autodrome in advance for a free noise check, in which case send an e-mail to Moira.eagles@bedford-autodrome.com or call 01234 332400 to arrange this, or try to get an independent test done locally to you. You could try www.association-of-noise-consultants.co.uk to find a local noise consultant, but they are likely to charge you for this. Please treat any test done by a third-party as a guide to whether your car is likely to pass or fail and be very cautious if it is approaching the limit as the readings that are taken at Bedford Autodrome will be the deciding factor over whether your car is too loud.

It must be stressed that the drive-by limit at Bedford is not something that can be “cheated”. The noise monitor records continually and we also have other noise meters around the track, so please do not think you will necessarily be able to continue running if you can pass the initial check.



Any breach of any of these regulations may result in you being asked to leave the circuit without refund. E & OE."

At Goodwood i believe that the noise detectors are linked to the council offices - but that is hearsay

[Monty]

Now this is something i`m worried about as my Peco system is loud I might be doing a Novice day at Oulton park in December if i can get wheel alignment sorted. so i`ll find out then if it`s to loud

[chris.t]

I would be v.surprised if u don't pass the test. Loads of the elises pass and they seem to have quite loud raspy exhausts

[stevieshag]

as its not that far away, i could always go fo a test & see what the db are with my peco system..

[chris.t]

as its not that far away, i could always go fo a test & see what the db are with my peco system..

you'll be ok steve

[taffy]

So do we need roll bars