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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 18:34

Still in the long laborious boring phase of cleaning up the chassis at the moment.

How the main parts looked when most of the components were removed, lots of surface rust dirt and grime:-

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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 18:40

Lots of wire brush action was required to remove 25+ years of old underseal, grit and rust. Some parts look really good with others being a bit grotty but no real horror stories:-

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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 18:49

Next step was to liberally apply a couple of coats of rust converter:-

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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 18:57

For those who may be interested the rust converter I used was Metalmorposis from Land Rover Blogger (more information can be found on their website: www.landroverblogger.com/our-rust-converter-stops-your-land-rover-rusting-away). Once it has done its work it turns the previously rusted areas black ready to be painted on:-

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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 19:07

In between waiting on things drying I have been cleaning up the rear hubs ready to be built up with new bearings, discs & pads:-

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This coming week will likely be spent painting on a couple of coats of POR 15 and getting everything ready to bolt back on :D
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Re: Project Black

Postby Jamie N » Sun 29.01.2017, 19:39

Nice work Steven. I hope you are wearing good gloves when using those toxic products! :) .
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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 19:52

Jamie N wrote:Nice work Steven. I hope you are wearing good gloves when using those toxic products! :) .


Safety first as always Jamie! The rust converter is actually non-toxic and solvent free - no idea what is in it but it does seem to work well. You may be interested to note that a lot of their testimonials appear to be from MX5 owners, I wonder why they would need to use a rust converter ;-)
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Re: Project Black

Postby Rambo » Sun 29.01.2017, 21:16

Par - what are the details on that box for the rear wheel bearing ?

It looks a bit like the the boxes that Bob Brown sold me at Malvern (before he escaped to sunnier climes)

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Re: Project Black

Postby Rambo » Sun 29.01.2017, 21:17

Par - what are the details on that box for the rear wheel bearing kit ?

It looks a bit like the the boxes that Bob Brown sold me at Malvern (before he escaped to sunnier climes)

Can't quite read the p/n from your photo
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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Sun 29.01.2017, 23:51

Rambo wrote:Par - what are the details on that box for the rear wheel bearing kit ?

It looks a bit like the the boxes that Bob Brown sold me at Malvern (before he escaped to sunnier climes)

Can't quite read the p/n from your photo


I will check on the p/n tomorrow (the box is in the freezer atm). I picked up the pair a while ago when I first got the car, I think they came from Germany from a link on this forum.

Were there issues with those from Bob Brown that I should be worried about?
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Re: Project Black

Postby Rambo » Mon 30.01.2017, 19:11

No issues with the bearings as far as I know - mine are still in the original boxes

Why are yours in the freezer anyway ? Isn't it cold enough in the Kingdom of Fife ? :twisted:
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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Tue 31.01.2017, 00:02

Rambo wrote:No issues with the bearings as far as I know - mine are still in the original boxes

Why are yours in the freezer anyway ? Isn't it cold enough in the Kingdom of Fife ? :twisted:


Details of the bearing kit are:-
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EAN: 7316575790322

Good to know there should be no issues with the kit, had me worried for a bit.

The radiation from Rosyth along with the flare stacks at Grangemouth and Mossmorran tends to keep the temperature up in Fife so bearings are in the freezer to make the assembly of the interference fit parts a bit easier.
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Re: Project Black

Postby lotusflasherman » Tue 31.01.2017, 02:32

par wrote: (the box is in the freezer atm).


You only need to cool the outer race... put the hub/disc in the oven too and it will drop in. :lol:
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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Wed 01.02.2017, 00:06

lotusflasherman wrote:
par wrote: (the box is in the freezer atm).


You only need to cool the outer race... put the hub/disc in the oven too and it will drop in. :lol:


It is easier to disguise as a packet of fishfingers in the freezer when still in the box :D

I left the hub/disc against the radiator for the first side but I still had to drift the outer race home, will try the oven for the next side - what temperature would you recommend?
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Re: Project Black

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 01.02.2017, 00:35

par wrote: what temperature would you recommend?

Hot as you can get. Our fan over goes to 190°C. When working hard discs can get to dull red which is over 750°C so 190°C isn't going to trouble them.
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Re: Project Black

Postby Bern » Wed 01.02.2017, 10:20

Safety was mentioned above, and when putting car parts in the oven safety is critical.

I would only attempt this when I was sure that the other half is definitely out for a few hours....
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Re: Project Black

Postby par » Wed 01.02.2017, 11:54

Bern wrote:Safety was mentioned above, and when putting car parts in the oven safety is critical.

I would only attempt this when I was sure that the other half is definitely out for a few hours....


I could claim it was practice for the new TV series of The Great Lotus Bake Off :D
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Re: Project Black

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 01.02.2017, 12:35

Bern wrote:Safety was mentioned above, and when putting car parts in the oven safety is critical.

I would only attempt this when I was sure that the other half is definitely out for a few hours....


No problem here. My wife has lived with an engineer for over 40 years and it's all about equality. If she wanted to use the oxy-acetylene torch for a Creme Brulee she knows she can.. :lol:
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Re: Project Black

Postby dapinky » Wed 01.02.2017, 14:52

I agree :agree:

Dishwashers are great for cleaning cylinder heads, alloy wheels etc - ovens are for evenly heating parts (oxy gear doesn't always give an even temperature, which can be critical if you are fitting circular stuff like flywheel rings).

But even I don't use the oven for baking powdercoat (but only because of the smell!!). :lol:
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Re: Project Black

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 01.02.2017, 16:15

dapinky wrote:I agree :agree:

Dishwashers are great for cleaning cylinder heads, alloy wheels etc - ovens are for evenly heating parts (oxy gear doesn't always give an even temperature, which can be critical if you are fitting circular stuff like flywheel rings).

But even I don't use the oven for baking powdercoat (but only because of the smell!!). :lol:


This is what you need for the garage Dave...Hotpoint-built-in-double-oven-BD81 only £1 :lol:
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