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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Sun 20.03.2016, 23:07

Been to Halfords today, the only thing I could find was Kurust as a rust converter. Began wire brushing the surface rust, but like usual ran out of time so will have to carry on at another point. I've got some Zinc Paint Primer, British Racing Green paint and Waxoyl Clear to coat it with.
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Re: Stripey

Postby rip » Mon 21.03.2016, 09:36

For rust-killing products, it depends on how thorough you want to be.
Kurust & waxoyl will help a lot & will be much better than leaving it.

Phil suggests frost.co.uk. They have a huge range of restoration products including POR-15 which is a great rust protector but not cheap.
It is also evil to use. It sticks to anything. You won't get it off your skin or out of your hair. I found that the solvent for it will not clean it out of the brush either.
Waxoyl also does not dry properly. It sets to what I can best describe as a jelly. Dinitrol goes on the same but sets to a drier finish.
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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Mon 21.03.2016, 13:55

After reading your comment 'rip' and watching The Lotus Elan M100 Restoration video on removing rust, I have decided to take the Kurust and Waxoyl back. Kurust I shall replace with Rustbuster FE-123 and the Waxoyl with Dinitrol 3125 Cavity Wax.

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Re: Stripey

Postby clemo » Sun 27.03.2016, 22:38

how you getting on Dan of the stripe?
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Re: Stripey

Postby clemo » Mon 28.03.2016, 14:56

Happy birthday dan ...
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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Tue 29.03.2016, 15:28

Cheers Clemo,
Sorry for the late reply, the last week or so has been rather busy.

With the car like usual not enough time in the day :banghead:, wire brushed the surface rust back and treated with Rust Buster FE-123. It's now currently Zinc Primed and ready for a final paint of Racing Green, before putting carpets and seats back in.

However after reading through many articles on the forum, I am now concerned for the jacking points. I shall upload photos of them later tonight or tomorrow.
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Re: Stripey

Postby clemo » Tue 29.03.2016, 16:02

did they sound crunchy ?
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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Tue 29.03.2016, 16:57

Haven't used them, but they are looking rather rusty.
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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Wed 30.03.2016, 20:52

Managed to put the final layer of British Racing Green over the Zinc Primer tonight. So if all looks good tomorrow hopefully I can begin putting back together the interior.

Heres a look at the Jacking Point on the underside of the car (Front Drivers Side).

IMG RUST 2.JPG
Upside-down again ...
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I've seen on the forum someone replace the 4 with a stainless steel spacer/washer. Which was just a 3mm thick laser cut.
Before I get this done does anyone know if I can just buy a replacement off the shelf one online somewhere?
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Re: Stripey

Postby epipete » Thu 31.03.2016, 06:37

No, I don't believe that you can get them any longer, but basically any washer of the right diameter (with the correct centre hole) will suffice as a replacement. The purpose of this plate is merely to support the Jack and spread the load so as not to damage the fibreglass cill.

So you can obtain replacement disc (washers) when you remove the old central bolts; you can then replace the old bolts with nice shiney new aluminium ones having first squirted a load of dinitrol into the hole followed by a smear of grease.

Notwithstanding this the critical element is the condition of the internal bracket! (IIRC looking at your earlier pics yours ought to be ok)
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Re: Stripey

Postby Fredjohn » Thu 31.03.2016, 10:16

There is a recent posting on replacing the jacking point washer using a stainless washer off ebay. Can't find the thread but think it may have been posted by dapinky. It's an M12 3mm thick 37mm od washer item no. 360477508372 on ebay.

Think same posting also referred to a stainless bolt, but as I can't find it I can't be more illuminating!! Use stainless rather than aluminium though.
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Re: Stripey

Postby dapinky » Thu 31.03.2016, 10:34

Fredjohn wrote:There is a recent posting on replacing the jacking point washer using a stainless washer off ebay. Can't find the thread but think it may have been posted by dapinky. It's an M12 3mm thick 37mm od washer item no. 360477508372 on ebay.


Whilst it wasn't me who posted the link, I'll take the credit if it works :D

That said, i did replace mine with a Stainless bolt when I welded mine up last year.
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Re: Stripey

Postby chrisP » Thu 31.03.2016, 11:41

Hi, the washer is for the replacement of the mild steel washers on the the top wishbones, on the front raft, not the jacking point washers. To be honest the ones on stripy don't look that bad, possibly a rust treatment and a quick spray of paint will give them a new lease of life. As previously said, it is the internal part of the jacking point you need to check for structural soundness.

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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Fri 01.04.2016, 19:17

After trying to remove the Socket Head Bolt I think I may have sheared what ever it is threaded into inside the car hull. It makes a Clunky noise, whilst trying to unscrew it and just rotates freely. Did apply a lot of WD40 before trying to unbolt it but no joy.

Any ideas?
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Re: Stripey

Postby clemo » Fri 01.04.2016, 20:27

does it sound like the whole thing is rotating ..
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Re: Stripey

Postby clemo » Fri 01.04.2016, 20:28

if its sheared can you wiggle it out ?
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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Sat 02.04.2016, 13:02

Yes mate the bolt is rotating and whatever it is threaded into is rotating. Tried wiggling it out no joy.
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Re: Stripey

Postby epipete » Sat 02.04.2016, 17:59

Here is a link to the thread that dealt with the issue and page 2 details Bob Brown's resolution, here you can see the actual bracket and make a judgement about your problem. If you need to remove the bracket because it is knackered then the thread (somewhere early, if not here) will tell you about drilling the rivets out that hold it on to the out rigger, elsewhere someone else has provided a template should you need to get a new one made up easily and cheaply enough.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=17298&hilit=Outriggers&start=20#p260819

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Re: Stripey

Postby Dan V » Sat 02.04.2016, 19:34

Well I don't think that I shall be doing that one then :(
Probably pass that job on to a garage :/

Cheers for that one Pete
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Re: Stripey

Postby epipete » Mon 04.04.2016, 11:24

Dan, don't be disheartened by this. I was and so it took several years before I plucked up courage, but in fact, if you study, and rehearse it all in your mind first when you actually decide to make a start and get past that first 'cut' it all becomes almost matter of fact, it isn't great engineering skill that is require here it is more about efficient logical thought process!

Anyway, even if you start and it all goes pear shaped, you just drive the car to a decent garage and pay the piper!
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