Justin's I.B.10

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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby JusNoGood » Sun 01.09.2019, 11:04

Thanks John

I agreed with the Mrs she’ll take the wheel in tomorrow. Took the wheel off the car and looked closer at the screw. Looked a relatively short one in the deepest part of the thread so screwed it out. I’ve sprayed soapy water on the hole and there’s no air leakage. Would you guys go with that? I was expecting the tire to go down and for me to get a shop to repair it from the inside out....
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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby Fredjohn » Sun 01.09.2019, 11:55

Given where it is, the method of repair is to plug it from the outside using a rubber plug with a head. The head is pushed in first which then "locks" itself inside the tyre (note it's spelt with a "y" over here!)

It is all bonded in with rubber cement and the excess tail cut off. About 10-15 mins work. Get down to most tyre outlets and they''ll do it. Although as your hole doesn't go all the way through, I'm not sure what they would do other than actually pushing the hole through.


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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby lotusflasherman » Sun 01.09.2019, 17:26

Fredjohn wrote:Given where it is, the method of repair is to plug it from the outside using a rubber plug with a head. The head is pushed in first which then "locks" itself inside the tyre (note it's spelt with a "y" over here!)

It is all bonded in with rubber cement and the excess tail cut off. About 10-15 mins work.


I also carry a DIY kit for plugging holes in tyres - first saw them in a motorcycle shop but are on ebay for all applications now, for less than £5. Seems more sense than squirting goo in the valve, which is only a get you home fix anyway, but I have not had need to use it so far.

The Evora has different wheels front to rear so no spare and is supplied with a can of Holts Tyreweld. That says it is only 'get you home' and '30mph should not be exceeded'. My Evora also has the optional Tyre Pressure Monitoring System that shows pressures on the dash and alarms when they start to drop. A set of winter wheels I bought had one valve sensor not working because it was full of goo and I found out how expensive a replacement is...
therefore I am not a fan of the cans of goo, like some are. Each to their own.

If the screw is only in a tread block and has not penetrated the carcass I would ignore it. I've frequently dug out a flint chip that appears to leave a hole but hole seems to disappear when the tyre has got hot. I thought you meant the screw was right through.

An alternative strategy for continental travel that I considered was to carry a spare tyre, anticipating that it should be fairly easy and cheap to find somewhere to fit and balance it.
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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby wayne » Mon 02.09.2019, 06:05

[quote="Fredjohn"]Given where it is, the method of repair is to plug it from the outside using a rubber plug with a head. The head is pushed in first which then "locks" itself inside the tyre (note it's spelt with a "y" over here!)

It is all bonded in with rubber cement and the excess tail cut off. About 10-15 mins work. Get down to most tyre outlets and they''ll do it. Although as your hole doesn't go all the way through, I'm not sure what they would do other than actually pushing the hole through.

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I thought these were made illegal donkeys years ago? I've only ever had 1 puncture repaired on my Elan and first place I went to offered me this method, I kindly refused and found somewhere else that offered an internal patch with a rubber plug that they pulled through from the inside and cut off.

I'll never use the repair kit that came with my Evora. The recommendation is that you need to replace the Tyre pressure monitor unit after use?
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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby GeoffSmith » Mon 02.09.2019, 10:15

lotusflasherman wrote:I also carry a DIY kit for plugging holes in tyres - first saw them in a motorcycle shop but are on ebay for all applications now, for less than £5. Seems more sense than squirting goo in the valve, which is only a get you home fix anyway, but I have not had need to use it so far.

So do I because one disadvantage of the repair foam is that the tyre cannot normally be repaired with a plug afterwards. Use Tyreweld and you're probably writing off the tyre.
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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby dapinky » Tue 03.09.2019, 09:38

There are a lot of 'rules' for using the tyre plugs - some are written in law, some are physics (what will and won't work), and some are common sence.

1) they should only be used if the damage is new (or newly discovered, I suppose) - before water gets into the hole and starts to break down the tyre carcas structure.
2) only used for simple holes (ie, screw puncture etc)
3) not used on the sidewalls (too much flex during normal use to seal)
4) not used close to the sidewalls (I think it's about 5mm clearance required between the inner edge of sidewall and the plug - otherwise the mushroom head can't expand and seal properly).

I have a set in the garage, but don't carry them with me (but would if travelling in Europe). I'd rather that the RAC man looked at it, (took me to a garage if stripping the wheel is needed), and then assessed if the plug is suitable.
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Re: Justin's I.B.10

Postby muley » Wed 04.09.2019, 07:18

While we're off topic;

A friend has a Honda Civic (yay) and he had a puncture, attempted to fix it with Tyreweld and it failed.

He called out the RAC. The technician used a bradawl to make the hole bigger(!) and used a big f*** off can of Tyreweld (or similar) and sent him on his merry way.

Tyre had to be replaced, of course

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