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Elans wanted within the U.K.

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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby bbjon » Fri 29.06.2018, 18:49

For £7000 I'd be prepared to let my Silk Red one go - it's not getting advertised but I have a plus two restoration that needs funding - drop me a pm if you're interested.
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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby ecc » Fri 29.06.2018, 20:45

bbjon wrote:For £7000 I'd be prepared to let my Silk Red one go - it's not getting advertised but I have a plus two restoration that needs funding - drop me a pm if you're interested.


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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby Brisvegas » Sun 01.07.2018, 10:38

I went to see the blue one in Sheffield as well when I was in England in May and I didn't get to try it as they were too busy to even talk with me. The service history was patchy and the impression I got was that they bought it cheap and put it straight on the lot with no valet , no repairs to small problems and no care factor.
I also saw a non turbo one at Overbrook that was going to auction , I wouldn't buy from them either.
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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby ecc » Sun 01.07.2018, 12:36

Brisvegas wrote:I went to see the blue one in Sheffield as well when I was in England in May and I didn't get to try it as they were too busy to even talk with me. The service history was patchy and the impression I got was that they bought it cheap and put it straight on the lot with no valet , no repairs to small problems and no care factor.
I also saw a non turbo one at Overbrook that was going to auction , I wouldn't buy from them either.


You dodged a bullet. It's in very poor mechanical shape for the price.
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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby Fredjohn » Tue 10.07.2018, 21:34

Am back home now if you want to take a look at my Elan. Am in Malvern so guess not far for you. Let me know and I'll PM some details.
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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby ecc » Wed 11.07.2018, 09:30

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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby Fredjohn » Wed 11.07.2018, 10:35

ecc wrote:PM sent!


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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby ecc » Wed 18.07.2018, 08:41

Update - search is over. I bought this one: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=26812

It's a lovely car. Beautifully cared for by its previous owner, and now it's my turn to act as its guardian and keep it in tip top running order. Daunting, but I'm looking forward to the challenge!

It would be a gross oversight on my part to fail to mention the priceless assistance I've received from this community and its members. I've been made more than welcome, met some of you in person already, and you've gone out of your way to share your time, expertise, tea, and insight into these fantastic little cars. And that sense of community played a big part in my decision to go down the Elan route. I'm of the opinion that owning a car of a certain age is not something that can be done in isolation; the group knowledge and experience is a vitally important resource, as is the encouragement needed to get through the difficult problems and the pleasure of sharing the successes with those who appreciate them. And one day, I hope to be in a position to pay that forward to those who join us in the future.

So basically, a massive thank you to you all!

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Re: Elan Wanted

Postby dapinky » Wed 18.07.2018, 09:13

Good to see that you've found a good one, Emma.

Whilst I don't know the car in person, I do know that if MikeY had it previously it would have been kept in great condition (he likes to do it right!)....

..... and I've followed the work on here since Jon has owned it.

Whilst *some* owners obtain a good car and then neglect it for a while, thinking that "it'll be okay - it's sorted", to his credit, Jon has done a lot more to further improve it.

As with any car of this age, getting a 'good' one to start with isn't always easy, and it can take a while to iron out the faults with any purchase (or is it just me that buys basket cases and spends years getting them how I want them).... you are starting with a good one (and TBH, any car which comes from an active LEC member is likely to be a better start than picking an advert on t'interweb). The pressure is on to keep it nice!

I hope you have lots of 'fun miles' in the car for the rest of the Summer (or all year round).

And if you take the trip down to the factory for the Lotus 70th birthday (29th September) you'll be allowed to park inside not get the 'Park & Ride' (we'd welcome you anyway!) - oh, and it is always nice to see a new (or old) member in person at these events - come and have a cup of tea on the LEC 'club' stand and say hello.
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Re: Elan Wanted (now FOUND!)

Postby Rambo » Wed 18.07.2018, 09:31

I'm glad you found a nice one Emma. I was beginning to doubt you'd find a suitable one. Perseverance definitely pays off in the long run ;-)

PS there are some lovely country lanes (and pubs) in Worcestershire, and surrounding Herefordshire/Shropshire, where the M100 will command envious stares wherever you go :burnout:
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Re: Elan Wanted (now FOUND!)

Postby ecc » Wed 18.07.2018, 12:53

Thanks Dave and Rambo. Yes, perseverance and the willingness to put a few thousand miles on the clock driving to look at cars is well worth it - and was a rather enjoyable experience. Met some nice people, and went to some parts of the UK that I've never been before.

I came to the conclusion that I'd seen enough Elans and done enough research to feel somewhat comfortable determining whether one was likely to be a "good" car or a "bad" car, and I made the decision to jump on one which checked all the boxes on my list:

1 - Good mechanical condition with no major issues evident during a detailed look around/in/under the car and during a test drive (and the buyer's guide on this site was a great starting point). Things that needed to be done and which were pointed out by the owner up front were never an issue and were often factored into the price - perfectly reasonable, and evidence of an honest seller. But if the car's condition was materially worse than that described in the ad, or if the seller didn't disclose significant defects that were obvious upon inspection or during a test drive and that any buyer would want to know about up front (i.e. expensive/difficult to fix or safety issues), the car was an instant "thanks, but no thanks". In addition to taking the car for a test drive, it was useful to have the owner give the car a more lively test drive while I sat in the passenger seat and looked, listened, and felt the car while it was being put through its paces. It's surprising what one notices when not concentrating on not crashing (ugh - clumsy writing) someone else's pride and joy on unfamiliar roads! It's also interesting to ask questions about the car while someone is concentrating on driving: because they're focused on the road, they're perhaps not so focused on remembering fibs that they said earlier in the ad or during the inspection, or thinking of new fibs to cover up the things you've noticed during the test drive. (Don't worry, LEC members - you all passed with flying colours and came across as a super honest bunch!)

2 - A seller who was passionate about the cars and who had taken good care of it during his or her ownership. This was almost as important as the mechanical condition of the car, to be honest. Buying a dodgy Lotus is an expensive mistake to make, and buying one from a seller who cares about the vehicle and who has done his or her best to keep it in good shape is cheap insurance.

3 - Reasonable cosmetic condition. Notwithstanding the fact that a shabby/filthy car is sometimes indicative of one in poor mechanical condition too (except my daily driver Peugeot, which is permanently filthy and often filled with receipts, sweet wrappers, coffee cups, and Greggs paper bags, despite being kept in solid mechanical condition), the cosmetic stuff above and beyond a good scrubbing and vacuuming can be rather expensive to fix. Yes, people buy Lotus cars for performance, but many of them are beautiful and sought after for that reason. The M100, for example. Definitely in the "sweet spot" for good looks in my opinion (being a teenager during that era), and a far cry from the aesthetic horrors of the 1970s models such as the Eclat and Europa or the overly-aggressive current models. The car I wanted to buy had to at least show that the owner knew how to use a sponge and how to park without smashing into lampposts.

4 - The right price bracket, give or take. This included leaving a healthy buffer to spend on maintenance during the first year rather than putting all the play money into the car itself and then having to skip maintenance or repairs.

5 - Not getting a weird feeling about anything to do with the car, owner, etc. I'm sure you know what I mean: we all have that sixth sense where we can tell something is amiss, even if we can't quite put a finger on it.

It's sort of like what the late US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said in his now-famous quote about hardcore pornography: in refusing to define exactly what it was, he simply stated, "I know it when I see it". (In isolation, that quote makes him sound like one of America's foremost connoisseurs of filthy movies. To the best of my knowledge, he wasn't. It's taken from a famous court case which addressed whether a locality prohibiting the screening of a dirty movie conflicted with the First Amendment.) And buying an Elan has been rather like that (although with far less nudity). You get to a point where you've seen enough Elans to know that you've found the right car, and that's the one you buy.

Anyway, apologies for the book. I'm trying my hardest to put off doing some weeding, but the garden now beckons.
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