upgraded turbos, what have you all done?

[MattDon]

just wanted to clarify is the GT2560R the same as the gt28r. previous link wasnt a garrett turbo. but i have found what looks to be genuine garrett turbos in japan (used) for £420 posted or new ones in the uk for £615

[Monty]

just wanted to clarify is the GT2560R the same as the gt28r, im having difficulty finding the gt2560r but the gt28r is pretty easy and unless ive got my wires crossed can be quite cheap. ebay.com

Matt, i`m not sure on that one but looking from the pic`s it looks like a copy as there`s no Garrett stamped on the housing

[Monty]

Guys,

What are we doing about Injectors and 3bar MAP sensor? can we get them in the UK

Marie,
What can we expect from the Garrett Turbo in terms off Horsepower and Boost limit?

[ailwyn]

These guys seem to think they are the same:

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merch ... y_Code=GRT

[ailwyn]

Guys,

What are we doing about Injectors and 3bar MAP sensor? can we get them in the UK

Jay,

No doubt these will have to be imported. Are you organising the group buy

A.

[F1 LOTUS]

just wanted to clarify is the GT2560R the same as the gt28r, im having difficulty finding the gt2560r but the gt28r is pretty easy and unless ive got my wires crossed can be quite cheap. ebay.com

Read all about it here, including BHP range for each turbo
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/products/turbochargers.html

[lotusgirlmarie]

Guys,

What are we doing about Injectors and 3bar MAP sensor? can we get them in the UK

Marie,
What can we expect from the Garrett Turbo in terms off Horsepower and Boost limit?

boost limit with the stock ECU is the same. the only advantage that you get is faster response and a different power curve. After phase two of the upgrade (injectors and Map sensor) you can easily get into the 300+ horsepower range reliably. Houdini did it, Ive done it, Ekapol has done it. My only concern is fuel mapping. I need to work with Alan to develop a chip for this to ensure a reasonable safeguard for the engine with the new MAP sensor and fuel injectors. Ekapol and I have electronic boost controlers and I think tigerdog has a MBC

the MAP sensor can be had from www.summitracing.com. As for the injectors... a quick search for RC Engineering 550cc injectors will come up with quite a few results.

[lotusgirlmarie]

on the turbo to exhaust manifold adapter plate, please order the 5/8" version from cranbury. if you order the 1" it will have to be milled down to 3/4" to allow enough clearance or the from framework and clamshell.
Or if you can coax him into doing a run of 3/4" plates this would be best.

O also talked to Ekapol at dinner about coming up with aninstall manual for this this little project.

[Nige]

Oh well as mine arrived yesterday best I get it milled down . The challenges of being too close to the front of the pack, not a drama though.

As far as 3 bar map sensors and RC injectors along with a new ECU or a new chip (be nice to Alan) I se this as a second stage and I'm probably not going to do both stages at once as before I go to the second stage I want to seriously consider what I might want to do to the suspension to make sure i can actually use the power. The car has already or will be upgraded in terms of transmission and drivetrain, cooling system and intercooler before I fit the upgrade (stage 1) then work on the suspension, then stage 2. That said if a group buy of the necessary bits was on the cards I'd be daft not to, I just might delay fitting them for a while until I was satisfied I'd done everything else I wanted or needed.

[ailwyn]

Or if you can coax him into doing a run of 3/4" plates this would be best.

I've PM'd Rafael.

Ailwyn

[Monty]

Guys,

What are we doing about Injectors and 3bar MAP sensor? can we get them in the UK

Jay,

No doubt these will have to be imported. Are you organising the group buy

A.

Don`t mind as long as everyone pays up front

Need to workout were`s the best place to get them

[Monty]

If the ECU can be programmed for high boost (maybe up to 1.4lb boost) and the right fueling then we could all chip in to pay Alan for his time and effort ie if we all put say £100 each then it may put a smile on his face + once i get the Turbo i suppose i could do the odd visit to Alan and maybe get it Dyno`d for better results.

[Dico]

1. Ailwyn #2 everything inc turbo, 2.25", black connectors
2. Ailwyn #2 no turbo (I may change my mind based on group buy cost), 2.25", black connectors
3. Monty #2 (everything) 2.25" inlet, Blue Connectors.
4. MattDon (everything) 2.25", red connectors
5. Nige - #2 (everything), 2.25" inlet, Red Connectors. But dont believe I actually need the trash can to turbo inlet pipe or the connectors at either end of it. I will however go for the whole kit if that keeps things simple.
6. Paul.P -#2 ( everything ), 2.25" inlet, Black connectors.
7. Dico - #2 (everything) 2.25" inlet, Blue Connectors.
8. dapinky - #2 (everything) 2.25", black connectors
9. F1 LOTUS - everything except trashcan > compressor inlet. (Red)
10. Richard K -#2 (everything), 2.25" inlet, Black Connectors
11. theelanman -#2 (everything incl turbo), 2.25" inlet, Yellow Connectors

Nice work contacting cranbury Ailwyn.

I can't stop salivating

[CRAMBURY RS]

Or if you can coax him into doing a run of 3/4" plates this would be best.

I've PM'd Rafael.

Ailwyn

don't lie, i've been reading this thread all along no i haven't!

i actually just got word from my waterjet guy, he has 3/4" plate again. depending on the number of interested parties i might be able to get the price down a few bucks or at least keep it the same as i just got word that ARP raised their prices, which totally sucks . i'll keep an eye on ya'll and then talk to my guy once everyone is set to purchase.

[CRAMBURY RS]

Updated

1. Ailwyn #2 everything inc turbo, 2.25", black connectors
2. Ailwyn #2 no turbo (I may change my mind based on group buy cost), 2.25", black connectors
3. Monty #2 (everything) 2.25" inlet, Blue Connectors.
4. MattDon (everything) 2.25", red connectors
5. Nige - #2 (everything), 2.25" inlet, Red Connectors. But dont believe I actually need the trash can to turbo inlet pipe or the connectors at either end of it. I will however go for the whole kit if that keeps things simple.
6. Paul.P -#2 ( everything ), 2.25" inlet, Black connectors.
7. Dico - #2 (everything) 3" inlet (I think), Blue Connectors.
8. dapinky - #2 (everything) 2.25", black connectors
9. F1 LOTUS - everything except trashcan > compressor inlet. (Red)
10. Richard K -#2 (everything), 2.25" inlet, Black Connectors
11. theelanman -#2 (everything incl turbo), 2.25" inlet, Yellow Connectors

can i assume then to harass my guy for at least 11 of these? they take well over 40 minutes a piece to cut...he will be happy for the business but be a little pissed about the time he'll have to put in :p

[Monty]

Updated

1. Ailwyn #2 everything inc turbo, 2.25", black connectors
2. Ailwyn #2 no turbo (I may change my mind based on group buy cost), 2.25", black connectors
3. Monty #2 (everything) 2.25" inlet, Blue Connectors.
4. MattDon (everything) 2.25", red connectors
5. Nige - #2 (everything), 2.25" inlet, Red Connectors. But dont believe I actually need the trash can to turbo inlet pipe or the connectors at either end of it. I will however go for the whole kit if that keeps things simple.
6. Paul.P -#2 ( everything ), 2.25" inlet, Black connectors.
7. Dico - #2 (everything) 3" inlet (I think), Blue Connectors.
8. dapinky - #2 (everything) 2.25", black connectors
9. F1 LOTUS - everything except trashcan > compressor inlet. (Red)
10. Richard K -#2 (everything), 2.25" inlet, Black Connectors
11. theelanman -#2 (everything incl turbo), 2.25" inlet, Yellow Connectors

can i assume then to harass my guy for at least 11 of these? they take well over 40 minutes a piece to cut...he will be happy for the business but be a little pissed about the time he'll have to put in :p

Nige has already got your adaptor plate, although it`s the 1" version which i think he`s having milled down.

So there`s at least 10 needed.


BTW, i was looking at the RC injectors, bloody hell there not cheap your talking £200 to £300 a set
found this site which sell RC injectors in the UK
http://www.futuremotorsports.com/listIt ... 2ce9a48e86

But which injectors do we need, SATURATED INJECTORS or PEAK AND HOLD INJECTORS ?
I may hold of buying the injectors till i`ve got the kit

Marie, have you got a part number or a link to the actuall MAP sensor we require please

[MattDon]

im sure people have their own sources but after a little look around i found the turbo for $800 excluding shipping and import fees.

feel free to pm links and i'll keep updating this if we find cheaper.

apollogies for repeating a previous post, but the guys above will ship for $87.50 so it works out a little cheaper.

[theelanman]

for our US family

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GARRETT- ... 0228392471

there are 2 turbos here at $775....seems to be the cheapest Ive found...however the $150 shipping costs make it more expensive than sourcing one in the UK.......

[F1 LOTUS]

As far as 3 bar map sensors and RC injectors along with a new ECU or a new chip (be nice to Alan) I se this as a second stage and I'm probably not going to do both stages at once as before I go to the second stage I want to seriously consider what I might want to do to the suspension to make sure i can actually use the power. The car has already or will be upgraded in terms of transmission and drivetrain, cooling system and intercooler before I fit the upgrade (stage 1) then work on the suspension, then stage 2.

It may be worth mentioning [confirming] at this time the need to upgrade the clutch when you breach a certain BHP threshold?

I seem to recall it is around 220BHP when the stock clutch cries Enough!

Personally I have no experience in this area but those who do, please weigh-in with your findings as it will help people decide how far they want to go

[ailwyn]

can i assume then to harass my guy for at least 11 of these?

I would suggest you get a confirmation of numbers, but I'm in for 2.

Thanks

Ailwyn