Hi-Spec rear conversion

[bobbrown]

Guide pricing for complete Kit

Hi-spec calipers Rear x 2 £ 280.00
Brackets £ 75.00
Hardware includes banjo bolts £ 25.00
Discs
240mm Plain £ 30.00
Grooved £ 55.00
256mm Plain £ 35.00
Grooved £ 65.00

Pads dependant on material
Standard £ 18.00
Green stuff £ 47.00
Yellow stuff £ 58.00

Total price is between £428.00 to £503.00 dependant on options

[surfboardfiller]

Guide pricing for complete Kit

Hi-spec calipers Rear x 2 £ 280.00
Brackets £ 75.00
Hardware includes banjo bolts £ 25.00
Discs
240mm Plain £ 30.00
Grooved £ 55.00
256mm Plain £ 35.00
Grooved £ 65.00

Pads dependant on material
Standard £ 18.00
Green stuff £ 47.00
Yellow stuff £ 58.00

Total price is between £428.00 to £503.00 dependant on options

Sounds perfect Bob! Nice one

[Dico]

Hoping to send payment tomorrow Bob (assuming the wife isn't around )

Oh, and I've changed my mind again, silver, not the cheapo ones though.

[nitroman]

Lemme get this straight. "Economy" = silver coloured calipers? That's it? No actual mechanical difference in the caliper? For that (colour silver) the price is 216 instead of 280? Surely wishful thinking on my part. I must have missed mention of a different caliper somewhere in the thread.
ADDENDUM: I see now. Also available in our "Economy" version which is finished in silver and comes with an embossed logo rather than an engraved one to keep the cost down to a minimum. Heck, I'd rather have it without the engraving. I can put my LOTUS decal right across the face of it then.

One other thing. Will our rear brake hoses screw into the Hi-Spec calipers? Are they the same thread?

[bobbrown]

Lemme get this straight. "Economy" = silver coloured calipers? That's it? No actual mechanical difference in the caliper? For that (colour silver) the price is 216 instead of 280? Surely wishful thinking on my part. I must have missed mention of a different caliper somewhere in the thread.

One other thing. Will our rear brake hoses screw into the Hi-Spec calipers? Are they the same thread?

The economy caliper is only valid for the front and not available as an option for the rear.
All rear calipers are £280.00 the pair
ADDENDUM: The economy caliper is only available for the front
The rear brake hose fits to the current caliper with a banjo and banjo bolt, I have included a new banjo bolt as the threads are different but the size is the same e.g. M10, so the new bolt will be M10 x 1.0.
The only issue I can forsee with the hose is length as it may be a little longer than required.
If the hose is not a good fit due to it's length I will make arrangements to get some new ones made up and as they are short and only require two fittings the cost should be quite low probably around £15 to £20 the pair.

Bob

[bobbrown]

I have found an alternative to the people with large front calipers (nitroman and fubar)
The BMW Mini uses a disc that is very close to what is required at 294mm diameter, has the correct stud pattern 4 x 100 just needs a concentric ring to align it to the hub. Will need to see what price I can get these for but they should offer a lower cost solution.

Bob

[bobbrown]

just to keep the list going

1. bobbrown
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
4. PaulW
5. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs)
6. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
7. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
8. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
9. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
10. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
11. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted 240mm x 20mm diameter rear
12. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
13. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit.
14. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted.

Disc sizes calculated to get close to 70:30 split and not allowing the braking to become rear biased

[Elanlover]

Bob, further to nitro's question about colour, are there options for the rears? I seem to recall on the HiSpec site that they offer several colours. Personally, I'm interested in black, front and back. But, other may want different colours if available. Should we be specifying colour?

Also, as you know I'm looking at a slightly custom/larger setup for front and back as per our discusisons. Does this affect the caliper at all in that I need to specify a caliper "size" in any way? Or, is it all in the disc size and mounting brackets that this is taken into consideration? Thanks!

[bobbrown]

Standard colours are Black, gold, and silver
other colours are available like red, blue, etc both front and rear but have a lead time of two weeks.

[Elanlover]

Thanks Bob, I'm going to specify the colour then on the list just to be sure if that's ok with you.


1. bobbrown
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
4. PaulW
5. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK
6. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
7. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
8. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
9. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
10. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
11. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted 240mm x 20mm diameter rear
12. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
13. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit.
14. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted.

[bobbrown]

I want to move this forward.

I have already had payments from some members and need to get the calipers organised.
To this end I have emailed some people direct but others I do not have their email address so decided this may be another way forwards.

I have attached an Excel spreadsheet and the same as a PDF could you fill it in with your individual requirements and email it back (robert at swcsl dot co dot uk)

Those that have already done so do not need to do so

Bob

[paulwatkins]

Bob, PM sent

1. bobbrown
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
4.
5. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK
6. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
7. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
8. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
9. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
10. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
11. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted 240mm x 20mm diameter rear
12. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
13. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit.
14. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted.

[router]

Bob when would you be wanting payment, im interested in the rears but Christmas and all that.....

Neil

[router]

Bob, Im in

1. bobbrown
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear
4.
5. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK
6. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
7. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
8. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
9. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
10. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
11. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted 240mm x 20mm diameter rear
12. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
13. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit.
14. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted.
15. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted

[bobbrown]

Tidy up
Could i also ask those that have sent money/paid mark them off (double check for me)
1. bobbrown PAID
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear PAID
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rearPAID
4. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK PAID
5. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
6. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
7. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
8. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
9. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
10. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted 240mm x 20mm diameter rear
11. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
12. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit.
13. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted. PAID
14. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted PAID

[RichardK]

Tidy up
Could i also ask those that have sent money/paid mark them off (double check for me)
1. bobbrown PAID
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear PAID
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rearPAID
4. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK PAID
5. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
6. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
7. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
8. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
9. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
10. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted - going to S2 Wheels(PAID)
11. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
12. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit.
13. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted. PAID
14. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted PAID

[Dico]

Tidy up
Could i also ask those that have sent money/paid mark them off (double check for me)
1. bobbrown PAID
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear PAID
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rearPAID
4. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK PAID
5. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
6. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
7. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
8. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
9. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
10. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted - going to S2 Wheels(PAID)
11. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
12. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit. PAID
13. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted. PAID
14. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted PAID

[bobbrown]

and there are more
Could i also ask those that have sent money/paid mark them off (double check for me)
1. bobbrown PAID
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear PAID
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rearPAID
4. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK PAID
5. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
6. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
7. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
8. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
9. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
10. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted - going to S2 Wheels(PAID)
11. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
12. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit. PAID
13. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted. PAID
14. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted PAID
15. Avonvilla 16" Wilwood's

[Gazza]

1. bobbrown PAID
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear PAID
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rearPAID
4. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK PAID
5. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
6. Nige (Already got the fronts 300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers).
7. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
8. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
9. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
10. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted - going to S2 Wheels(PAID)
11. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
12. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit. PAID
13. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted. PAID
14. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted PAID
15. Avonvilla 16" Wilwood's
16. Gazza - (295mm AP Fronts) - 240/256mm x 20mm Caliper RED (PAID)

[Nige]

1. bobbrown PAID
2. Ailwyn - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rear PAID
3. Ailwyn (just the not-off-the-shelf bits) - Going for BB Hi-Spec Fronts 16" 294mm x 24mm front 256mm x 24 rearPAID
4. Elanlover (custom HiSpec front set up as per Bob's specs) - BLACK PAID
5. SuferPhil - Not sure yet, probably AP up front for the track car with the adjustable bias and 16" S2 wheels
6. Nige (300x28mm Front Discs - Hi Spec Billet 4 Calipers). PAID (Calipers (Black), brackets and hardware only 256mm discs and pads to follow).
7. Nitroman - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2 piece
8. Fubar1764 - Wilwood 6811 front willwood rear disc 298mm x 20.6mm 2piece
9. G UK - Hi-Spec 16" Fronts already fitted 240mm x20mm diameter rear
10. Richard K - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted - going to S2 Wheels(PAID)
11. A B Munro - A P Racing front discs and calipers
12. Dico - currently have Wilwoods 16" kit up front, wanting to upgrade to BB's front Hi'spec 16" kit. PAID
13. Monty - BB`s 16" wilwoods front fitted. PAID
14. Router - HiSpec under 15" rim already fitted PAID
15. Avonvilla 16" Wilwood's
16. Gazza - (295mm AP Fronts) - 240/256mm x 20mm Caliper RED (PAID)