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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby mnemonix » Mon 11.05.2009, 14:12

lotos wrote:It's like they're totally sacrificing Bar already, using him only for constructor points or something. He's a hell of a driver, overtaking quite a bit this last race


They maintained that a three stop strategy was showing as the fastest throughout the race, and Barrachello intimated his (3rd?) set of tyres let him down - he definitely dropped off the pace. Had that not been the case, he might have done it. Hats off to Button anyway, nothing but admiration for Brawn GP here, though I'm no Hamilton-hater either.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby clemo » Wed 13.05.2009, 07:33

new rules..
no thank you say ferarri. were off.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/5/9348.html
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby M100_DMM » Wed 13.05.2009, 10:11

mnemonix wrote:
lotos wrote:It's like they're totally sacrificing Bar already, using him only for constructor points or something. He's a hell of a driver, overtaking quite a bit this last race


They maintained that a three stop strategy was showing as the fastest throughout the race, and Barrachello intimated his (3rd?) set of tyres let him down - he definitely dropped off the pace. Had that not been the case, he might have done it. Hats off to Button anyway, nothing but admiration for Brawn GP here, though I'm no Hamilton-hater either.


If a three stopper was the way to go, why did they take take Button off his three stop strategy (he had a lap less fuel than his team-mate over in his the first stint) and convert it to a two stopper? Moreover, why didn't they tell Barichello what they had done with Button's car sooner than they did?

Also, if a three stop strategy was really the way to go, why didn't any of the other front-running teams go for it?

Brawn will want to keep one of their drivers at the head of the championship race for as long as possible. Button's the man at the head of the field, so if Brawn were to favour any driver then, logically, it would be him.

I'm not trying to detract from some great drives from Button. After a period in the wilderness, he's been given the chance to shine and, boy, has he seized it with both hands.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby lotos » Wed 13.05.2009, 19:20

It's a team sport - and they're all doing what's best for Brawn GP - which right now is "Get Button to the win" and "Get Barrichello to as many points as possible". Makes sense.

I am in shock about Ferrari. We'll see if they hold firm on that threat.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Specky » Wed 13.05.2009, 19:32

:smt006 By-by Renault and Ferrari ...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD985FHC00

It's simple for Ferrari...

They have a poor car on the grid, they spend a few hundred million and have the best car midway throu the season...

Now if they limit the money ..... Ferrari are biffed, (now where's that teddy throwing smilie)



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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby M100_DMM » Wed 13.05.2009, 21:55

lotos wrote:It's a team sport - and they're all doing what's best for Brawn GP - which right now is "Get Button to the win" and "Get Barrichello to as many points as possible". Makes sense.

I am in shock about Ferrari. We'll see if they hold firm on that threat.


Yes, it's a team sport but it's also an individual sport - why bother having a driver's championship otherwise? If Brawn are favouring one driver then they are doing so in pursuit of the drivers title - after all, it really wouldn't matter whether JB or Rubens won if the team's main interest was the constructor's cup, would it?
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby lotos » Wed 13.05.2009, 22:08

Brawn GP is happy either way - and the current strategy is going to give them both:

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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby M100_DMM » Wed 13.05.2009, 22:26

lotos wrote:Brawn GP is happy either way - and the current strategy is going to give them both:



That's a very bold prediction, lotos.

I'm sure they're well aware of the threat from Vettel (Brawn must be so grateful that Red Bull's race strategies have not been up to scratch) and from a recovering Ferrari.

This season has still got a long way to go; the Fat Lady hasn't even been booked yet!
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby lotos » Thu 14.05.2009, 02:32

I wasn't trying to imply they're a guaranteed success in 2009 - but it's certainly proving very successful so far!
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby rip » Thu 14.05.2009, 22:35

Specky wrote::smt006 By-by Renault and Ferrari ...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD985FHC00


2 sets of rules? Sounds bonkers but that is exactly what we had in the 80's with 1.6 turbos & 3.0 NAs racing together.
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby F1 LOTUS » Fri 15.05.2009, 05:36

rip wrote:
Specky wrote::smt006 By-by Renault and Ferrari ...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD985FHC00


...The attraction of F1 is that it is cutting edge. Take that away & it will be just another motor sport.


Sign-up for the Lotus 'ProActive newsletter - there's an interesting article [latest issue] relating to F1's "cutting edge" credibility...

http://www.just-auto.com/proActive/
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby daveA » Sat 23.05.2009, 17:32

F1 addicks ING RENAULT team testing at IWM Duxford on the 27th may...

http://duxford.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.6033

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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby lotos » Sun 24.05.2009, 18:34

Great race - not too much carnage in the tight Monaco lanes...
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Monty » Sun 24.05.2009, 23:56

Another good win to Button

But i`m getting bored with F1, love to see F1 go back a few steps ie do away with the front & rear wing, back to a manual box and no dam! buttons on the steering wheel :twisted:

can`t beat the British Touring Cars which can be watched on ITV4 and there at Oulton Park next week :-D
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Gary » Mon 25.05.2009, 16:27

The race was a boring as hell.

Good that Button won though 8)
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby rip » Mon 25.05.2009, 18:29

Gary wrote:The race was a boring as hell.

Typical Monaco really. Location, the tracks tigh & twisty nature & the lack of run-offs are the interestig bits with that GP. The racing is always poor.

Gary wrote:Good that Button won though 8)

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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby lotos » Mon 25.05.2009, 20:56

After watching so much F1 lately, I watched Indy 500 and it was really boring and sort of seemed like open-wheel racing for the NASCAR crowd to me. No disrespect to any IRL fans here.
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Classic Lotus visit Sidpodcast

Postby F1 LOTUS » Sat 06.06.2009, 07:57

Firstly, here's an F1 fan-site / community that has a regular supply of free download-able mp3 podcasts - chat, gossip, news and comment, including contributions from Joe Saward - checkout the archives for mp3 content too - Well done and, good fun :D 8)
http://www.sidepodcast.com/

They're currently setting about organising a group visit to Classic Team Lotus: -
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/SPC+Me ... Team+Lotus
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Litespeed to use Lotus name for F1 bid

Postby F1 LOTUS » Sun 07.06.2009, 08:03

Litespeed has announced that it will use the historic Lotus name for its attempt to enter Formula 1 next season.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75903
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Re: F1 formula one chat/stuff

Postby Nige » Sun 07.06.2009, 09:30

I would love to see the Lotus name back in F1 and wish them all success, I just hope they are able to do credit to the name, if not perhaps they should re badge as Honda.
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