Head Gasket Kit

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Fubar1764 » Wed 19.05.2010, 03:57

I'm happy to pick the parts up and ship them if LGM is busy.
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Nickydee » Wed 19.05.2010, 08:55

In the absence of alternatives, I recently used the Felpro item from Rock. Looked like a quality item. Done over 700 miles since with no problems
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby GeoffSmith » Wed 19.05.2010, 17:46

dapinky wrote:Good info, Geoff!

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Specky » Wed 19.05.2010, 17:53

I've gotta New Lotus N/A head gasket if anyone needs a picture to compare to an SE or isuzu item

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby ESM » Sat 22.05.2010, 12:52

Nickydee wrote:In the absence of alternatives, I recently used the Felpro item from Rock. Looked like a quality item. Done over 700 miles since with no problems


The problem I have with the head gasket parts listed on RockAuto is that they are listed as being suitable for both the 4XE1W and the 4XE1W-T (the Elan N/A and turbo engines respectively). As Geoff already mentioned in the previous page the cooling channels should be different between these two applications. So while the gasket will certainly fit the head I question if it will do the engine/turbo any good.

So far the best option I have found is a BGA - British Gaskets (automotive) part number CH5566. They list different gaskets for the two engine types. Their catalogue can be found here - follow the Isuzu Impulse application, the Elan is not listed. They do not sell direct but they tell me that EXPRESS ENGINE PARTS - 01642 613605, who are local to me, supply their stuff. If you email them with a postcode they'll tell you who's local to you. The bad news is that it's not cheap at upwards of £80...

I also asked Ferriday about the possibility of making one they say:

If all else fails I can make a Bi-Metal gasket in thickness of 0.6mm or 1.0mm for you, cost is £158.00 plus P&P, though these gaskets are nowhere near as user-friendly as the softer gaskets you'll be familiar with. There's some info attached that explains more about these gaskets.
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Specky » Sat 22.05.2010, 16:17

Here's the N/A version for comparrison should anyone require it....

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby GeoffSmith » Sat 22.05.2010, 16:54

DocFizzypop's Lotus TURBO gasket (from gasket set A1006184S):

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby GeoffSmith » Sat 22.05.2010, 17:00

Monty's Lotus TURBO gasket:

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Specky » Sat 22.05.2010, 17:12

Lotus N/A Gasket

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Easier to compare

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby GeoffSmith » Sat 22.05.2010, 19:26

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Monty » Sat 22.05.2010, 20:31

Note, that i cut water ways out larger to match head and block, ie one on the far left and 2 on the far right.

Looks like the N/A gasket is the same but someone couldn`t take a pic of the full gasket :poke:
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Specky » Sat 22.05.2010, 21:41

You need a bigger screen you mad fool... :lol:



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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby GeoffSmith » Sat 22.05.2010, 22:15

Specky wrote:You need a bigger screen you mad fool... :lol:

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Alan_C » Sun 23.05.2010, 21:16

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Comparing the 2 gaskets, it seems the NA has more restrictive water ways next to number 1 and 4 cylinders, it has 4 holes while the turbo gasket has 3 of these holes elongated into slots. Would it not just be a simple matter of modifying a NA gasket with a craft knife to replicate the slots (I've drawn in red where to cut on the NA gasket)? The NA gasket is available at around £52 and a NA head set at £70.
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby GeoffSmith » Sun 23.05.2010, 21:22

They were Monty's modifications cutlea01 (probably with a hammer aka the Irish craft knife :twisted: ). Look at Doc Fizzix's gasket for an example of a proper Turbo manifold.
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Alan_C » Sun 23.05.2010, 21:54

Ah! I didn't read the posts well enough. So, what are the differences, I can't see any? :?
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Specky » Mon 24.05.2010, 16:23

Specky wrote:You need a bigger screen you mad fool... :lol:



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just viewed this thread on safari with an Iphone- half a photograph...

With IE8 I can see the full gasket

all very strange,

there is a difference I can see...... 4 orange seals against 3

I've got something in my mind that says the thickness of the gasket maybe different.....

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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby tonny006 » Mon 24.05.2010, 21:27

I fitted a BGA gasket on my S2 in December as it was the only one i could get,it looked identical to the OE one.
I have done about 2000 miles and 3 track days so far with no problems.
I hope this helps someone make a decision.
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby Monty » Mon 05.07.2010, 20:45

Specky wrote:Monty,

could you measure the dimensions of the big holes please.

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Few approx measurements of Turbo Head Gaskets:-

Dico`s old used stock HG (Silver)
Thickness- 1.21mm
Bore 80.8mm


Dico`s New aftermarket replacement AJUSA (dark grey)
Thickness- 1.28mm
Bore 81mm

Kmckmc`s HG (Black)
Thickness- 1.65mm :shock:
Bore 81.2mm
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Re: Head Gasket Kit

Postby bobbrown » Mon 05.07.2010, 23:06

Monty,

Where did you measure the thickness, they need to be measure on the flame ring, the metal bit around the cylinder bore as these do not relax that much when you take the head off.
I would have expected the new gasket to be thicker than the old one by a bigger margin as 0.07mm (0.0028") is not very much.
I have done this before but can not remember what the figures were like as the compressed figure is required when calculating compression ratios.

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