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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby abmunro » Fri 05.02.2010, 20:12

Doug is going to talk to Clutch Specialities.

I also emailed a company in USA - Clutchmasters.com

they came back with
"hello Tony ,
I would suggest or fx300 kit , part# 09-017-hdtz price$ 539.00 and the aluminum flywheel part# fw-706-al price$ 472.50 "

Clutchmasters.com

This is the company Desmondsee used ( see his thread below)

Desmond see car


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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby lotusguymichael » Thu 18.02.2010, 02:22

abmunro wrote:I have managed to find Spec 3+ clutch at reduced cost

Spec 3+ clutch at cheaper price



This is the clutch I installed on my Elan this last November. It is slightly more harsh than the stock one, but I hear it gets better the more it wears in. With the Quaiff differential, the car grabs for traction like a cheetah. I believe these are rated at somewhere around 400 HP. Actualy I just found the info. They are rated at 500+ foot/pounds.

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby abmunro » Tue 23.02.2010, 15:34

I am going to bite the bullet and buy the Spec 3+ clutch and the Aasco flywheel

Total cost is approx £565 + P&P from Ultra Rev.


If anyone else is interested let me know and will try to get reduced price.

I will look to order this tonight or tomorrow

I want my car ready in next 4-6 weeks.

Cheers

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby Monty » Tue 23.02.2010, 16:38

abmunro wrote:I am going to bite the bullet and buy the Spec 3+ clutch and the Aasco flywheel

Total cost is approx £565 + P&P from Ultra Rev.


If anyone else is interested let me know and will try to get reduced price.

I will look to order this tonight or tomorrow

I want my car ready in next 4-6 weeks.

Cheers

Tony


ps Sorry for hi jacking this thread



You do realise that you will get stung for Duty and vat on that? There a bunk of money grabbing :censored:

How much is the flywheel coming in at?


SWLC wrote:Right I have finaly got some more information and a picture. They dont look the prittiest but have never let me down in any of the Lotus Elise's I have had them made for.

I am still working on the price but need to get my supplyer down a bit.

I would expect them to be about £200-£250 including the bearing! but cant be 100% sure yet.

Regards

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Any more news on the clutch?
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby abmunro » Tue 23.02.2010, 16:47

Monty wrote:
abmunro wrote:I am going to bite the bullet and buy the Spec 3+ clutch and the Aasco flywheel

Total cost is approx £565 + P&P from Ultra Rev.


If anyone else is interested let me know and will try to get reduced price.

I will look to order this tonight or tomorrow

I want my car ready in next 4-6 weeks.

Cheers

Tony


ps Sorry for hi jacking this thread



You do realise that you will get stung for Duty and vat on that? There a bunk of money grabbing :censored:

How much is the flywheel coming in at?


SWLC wrote:Right I have finaly got some more information and a picture. They dont look the prittiest but have never let me down in any of the Lotus Elise's I have had them made for.

I am still working on the price but need to get my supplyer down a bit.

I would expect them to be about £200-£250 including the bearing! but cant be 100% sure yet.

Regards

James



James


Any more news on the clutch?





Flywheel is $376.33 + P&P + vat and duty etc
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby chris.t » Tue 23.02.2010, 17:44

yep the thieving what hav yers charge VAT on the postage cost as well.
Could the 'Hokey-Cokey' actually be what it's all about?
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby abmunro » Wed 24.02.2010, 12:42

THIS WHAT I HAVE ORDERED

Dear Mr. Anthony Munro,
Thank you for your order. Please come back soon!
Invoice:



INVOICE

Date: 02/24/2010 05:34:44
Order id: XXXXX
Order status: Processed
Payment method:
PayPal Pro: ExpressCheckout
Delivery method:
FedEx International Economy UtraRev.com
750 Central Ave, Farmingdale
07727, New Jersey
United States
CALL US: 1-877-858-7272
International: 732-938-3999
Fax: 732-938-4999
E-Mail: ray@ultrarev.com


Products ordered
SKU Product Item price Quantity Total


103601-11 Aasco Aluminum Flywheel
This product fits the following::

$376.33 1 $376.33




SI473F SPEC Performance Clutch Kit Stage 3+
This product fits the following::

$521.10 1 $521.10



Subtotal: $897.43
Discount: $25.00
Discounted subtotal: $872.43
Shipping cost: $119.12


Total: $991.55



Thank you for your purchase!
________________________________________
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Fax: 732-938-4999
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby SWLC » Sat 27.02.2010, 18:14

Hello everyone,

Sorry that it is taking ages to get a price for the clutch kits, I have been out of the office most of the week so I will find out on monday for you.

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby abmunro » Sat 27.02.2010, 18:58

I have had another quote,

I have already ordered mine but other might be interested



Hi Anthony,

I've finally got some news for you!

I can confirm that the company willing to make these products will be Helix.

The kit will include clutch plate and cover. Its a paddle clutch plate made from a Cerimetalic composite. This is a stronger composite than what is used in Organic items. You would typically find this type of clutch plate in competition vehicles. They have also identified a problem with the original cover plate. Apparently, if they do a direct equivalent the cover will not be strong enough to cope with the torque (common problem on the Elan). The cover that they are willing to do for this application will be redesigned and reinforced to cope.

Prices:-

Clutch Plate Paddle #165+VAT (2-3weeks)
Clutch Cover #210+VAT (3-4weeks)
Light weight Flywheel #300+VAT (3-4 weeks)

If you require any of these components, Helix have advised a turn around time of approximately 3-4 weeks.

Fingers crossed Anthony, this is all the information that your in need of. Just let me know as and when and we'll get it all sorted.

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby Monty » Fri 19.03.2010, 00:56

SWLC wrote:Hello everyone,

Sorry that it is taking ages to get a price for the clutch kits, I have been out of the office most of the week so I will find out on monday for you.

Regards

James



Hi James,

Just to let you know i`m still interested as i`ve just sold my spare clutch, i`m in no rush but when i come to fit the a larger turbo (which won`t be very a long time) i will require a uprated clutch to handle 300bhp. just keep us up todate :wink:

BTW, think i`d prefer the full face clutch if poss

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby abmunro » Fri 19.03.2010, 08:55

I got stung for £18 VAT as parcel came with total of approx value £50

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby SWLC » Wed 08.09.2010, 13:44

Right I have finally pulled my finger out and got round to getting these paddel clutch's sorted. They will be a four paddel clutch like in the photo and come complete with friction plate, pressure plate and release bearing.

The Retail price is £326.52+VAT

All Lotus Elan Central members will get a specail price of £261.22+VAT.

If anyone is interested please let me know and I will start getting them made as I need a minimum of 5 orders to get the parts in.

If you have any questions please feel free to phone me or drop me an email on spares@thelotuscentre.com or 01566 784152.

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby Monty » Wed 08.09.2010, 17:48

James,

Not good timing for me as i`m Broke :( and would of prefered the full face type clutch as the 4 puck is a little to on and off for normal driving :?

Will these be available again in the future?

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby SWLC » Thu 09.09.2010, 08:39

Hi Jay,

I am going to be doing these all the time from now on and we can also make standard clutch's too. Just let me know nearer the time and we can sort them out for you.

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby rip » Thu 09.09.2010, 09:53

Monty wrote:Dico has the 6 puck clutch fitted and i drove his downs south last week to Simons factory and you soon get use to the clutch.


After driving the Blue Beast recently:

Dico: "You didn't have any problems with the clutch then."
Me: "Why, should I? Knowing you, it's probably an uprated one. Didn't feel particularly stiff to me."
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby Monty » Thu 09.09.2010, 18:50

SWLC wrote:Hi Jay,

I am going to be doing these all the time from now on and we can also make standard clutch's too. Just let me know nearer the time and we can sort them out for you.

James



Cheers James,

Thats good to know :-D
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby racerstev » Wed 26.01.2011, 15:32

Any updates on this thread? It's time to start lookng around for something to hold around 300 hp, I was thinking a
sprung 6 puck with a stock pressure pressure plate. I was able to get ahold of a nice aluminum flywheel for it..

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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby bobbrown » Wed 26.01.2011, 15:55

It would depend on what the stock pressure plate is capable of handling as it is all to do with clamp load and torque not horse power but if you up the horse power you will up the torque as the two are related.
I doubt the stock pressure plate is capable of handling the extra torque so an uprated cover will be needed.

Do not forget friction does not rely on area but load.
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby Monty » Thu 27.01.2011, 01:06

Steve it should be easyer for you to get on your side of the pond

Monty wrote:
SWLC wrote:Well, the Elise ones I have had made have gone really well as they are designed to be like a fast road use clutch so not to heavy but can take alot more hoursepower than a standard one.

I am going to speak to my guy tomorrow morning to talk about specs and also costs.

I should know everything by lunchtime so I can post it up here.

Regards

James



Be interesting to know the spec and cost


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http://www.clutchmasters.com/
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdet ... FX300/9689
http://www.exedyusa.com/race/
http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/searchp ... Category=7
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Re: Uprated Paddel Clutch

Postby racerstev » Thu 27.01.2011, 05:41

I decided to go with a local company, $135 for a sprung 6 disc plate, I supply the pressure plate.
I'm pretty sure this was the clutch I used when the Isuzu was running low 11's and 375 hp..

http://www.hrclutch.com/
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