Dave's shortshift - now under the management of Bob Brown

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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby quentin » Sun 03.04.2011, 11:08

Hi all,
I tried to to ihstall the kit by myself and miserably failed.
With the control box still installed on the gearbox, I was unable to loosen the shift pin nut from the cross shaft selector arm.
Do you have any tips ? It may be easier with the control box out, but need to find a new joint, right ?
How did you guys managed to remove it, except bodybuilding ?
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby saska » Sun 03.04.2011, 13:06

quentin wrote:Hi all,
With the control box still installed on the gearbox, I was unable to loosen the shift pin nut from the cross shaft selector arm.
Do you have any tips ?

I've done 2 and on both I removed the selector box and used a vice -- still a bugger to shift but it worked both times and didn't apply any forces into the wrong places.
It may be easier with the control box out, but need to find a new joint, right ?

You might get lucky and not break the gasket but I wouldn't bet on it. You can get a replacement gasket from SJs
In Gearbox section: GASKET, SELECTOR CONTROL BOX (Top of box) A100F6096S EACH 2.72
One of the great mods to the Elan.
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby HJ2 » Sun 03.04.2011, 13:50

I undo the pin from below with a socket and a ratch. A second person is handy for steering and keeping the flat bit of the pin in position so it won't start rotating after a few turns. From the 7 sets i installed, i had to remove the selector box from only one and the gasket did brake, but a tiny bit of RTV did the trick.Oh, don't forget to use penetrating oil and never use excessive force.

I would say that if you can't get the pin from below with the assistance of somebody, that you first order a gasket, and when it's in, you remove the selector box and do your thing 8)
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby rip » Sun 03.04.2011, 16:42

saska wrote:.
It may be easier with the control box out, but need to find a new joint, right ?

You might get lucky and not break the gasket but I wouldn't bet on it. You can get a replacement gasket from SJs
In Gearbox section: GASKET, SELECTOR CONTROL BOX (Top of box) A100F6096S EACH 2.72
One of the great mods to the Elan.


The gasket is not subject to any stress. You can always cut a replacement from a cereal packet if necessary.
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby saska » Sun 03.04.2011, 18:27

rip wrote:The gasket is not subject to any stress. You can always cut a replacement from a cereal packet if necessary.

You could probably just use an instant-gasket-from-a-tube.
Alternatively you could do it right with the correct gasket which is why I said what I did.
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby quentin » Mon 04.04.2011, 21:41

HJ2 wrote:I undo the pin from below with a socket and a ratch. A second person is handy for steering and keeping the flat bit of the pin in position so it won't start rotating after a few turns. From the 7 sets i installed, i had to remove the selector box from only one and the gasket did brake, but a tiny bit of RTV did the trick.Oh, don't forget to use penetrating oil and never use excessive force.

I would say that if you can't get the pin from below with the assistance of somebody, that you first order a gasket, and when it's in, you remove the selector box and do your thing 8)


This sounds goof to me. Thanks all for your feedback :cheers: .
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby PECKHS » Wed 08.06.2011, 06:05

DeeAitch wrote:The resulting Mk2 kit is now available for £75 + £3 for UK P&P (overseas shipping by prior agreement at 'cost').
An esteemed member of LEC recently achieved fitting of this kit in around 20 mins but full fitting instructions are included if you decide to take your time!
Please send a PM if you are interested.



hi, can i know if the kits are still available and how much would he shipping be to Singapore?
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Re: Dave's shortshift

Postby DeeAitch » Thu 09.06.2011, 20:33

PECKHS wrote:
DeeAitch wrote:The resulting Mk2 kit is now available for £75 + £3 for UK P&P (overseas shipping by prior agreement at 'cost').
An esteemed member of LEC recently achieved fitting of this kit in around 20 mins but full fitting instructions are included if you decide to take your time!
Please send a PM if you are interested.



hi, can i know if the kits are still available and how much would he shipping be to Singapore?
tks

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You have PM :wink:
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby DeeAitch » Wed 28.09.2011, 20:33

Bob Brown has kindly agreed to take over production of these kits, no doubt adding his own personal touch to the design :D
Please address any enquiries in his direction.

Thanks to everyone who suported this project over the last few years. To those who have yet to discover how bad the OE shift quality really is, get in touch with Bob as soon as you can !
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby HJ2 » Wed 28.09.2011, 21:20

As one of your best customers (i think): Sorry to see you stop production! It has been a pleasure dealing with you.
(how about that other 'project' by the way? )
Thank god Bob takes over the production! Couldn't find a better follow up :bananasex:

The king is dead, all hail the king! :bowdown: :cheers: :gathering:
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby DeeAitch » Wed 28.09.2011, 23:33

HJ2 wrote:As one of your best customers (i think): Sorry to see you stop production! It has been a pleasure dealing with you.
(how about that other 'project' by the way? )
Thank god Bob takes over the production! Couldn't find a better follow up :bananasex:

The king is dead, all hail the king! :bowdown: :cheers: :gathering:


HJ, you were THE best customer :D It was pleasure doing business with you :cheers:
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby Monty » Thu 29.09.2011, 18:01

Dave, thanks for all your hard work on the shortshift project :wink:
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby DeeAitch » Sun 02.10.2011, 21:10

Monty wrote:Dave, thanks for all your hard work on the shortshift project :wink:

Monty, it was a pleasure :D
And thanks for sorting me out with a few bits over the years :wink:
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby ovi » Tue 04.10.2011, 10:34

DeeAitch wrote:
HJ2 wrote:As one of your best customers (i think): Sorry to see you stop production! It has been a pleasure dealing with you.
(how about that other 'project' by the way? )
Thank god Bob takes over the production! Couldn't find a better follow up :bananasex:

The king is dead, all hail the king! :bowdown: :cheers: :gathering:


HJ, you were THE best customer :D It was pleasure doing business with you :cheers:

And thanks to mount Dave shortshift on my Elan Hj! :banana:

We can safely say that Hj has become the specialist of the Netherlands and Belgium in problems or improvements off the Elan transmission! :bowdown:
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Many thanks to Dave and Bob

Postby tigerdog » Tue 04.10.2011, 17:31

Heartfelt thanks to Dave for the original design and production. Hat's off to Bob for continuing the tradition and combining with his cable kits. If I ever need replacements or get another Elan (with subsequent divorce :shock: ) I'll come calling!
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby bobbrown » Tue 03.01.2012, 17:55

Here's my version of Dave's short shift or Bob's short shift.
Pictures are not that good as the battery was getting low on the camera but I think you’ll get the idea.
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The crossgate bell crank is now made of Aluminium (6082 T6 equivalent to HE30 old money), machined from a solid with maintenance free Iglidur bushes and a hardened and tempered steel pin. I have done away with the square holes as they are a pain when fitting the stainless steel gear cables, if the short shift is fitted with standard cables I will supply a pin to take the standard cables.
The fore/aft lever now has a slot so that the amount of travel can be adjusted from a little under 30% less to 50%, this is slightly more than Dave's as his was something like 40%, of course you can set it any where in between to suit. Still with the counter weight on the end although not shown in the levers as they are waiting to get TIG welded.

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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby HJ2 » Tue 03.01.2012, 20:02

1 smiley says it all:




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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby DeeAitch » Tue 03.01.2012, 22:30

Think I might need to order one for myself :P
Top development work Bob !
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby tigerdog » Thu 05.01.2012, 20:45

Superb! If I didn't have the original + AB, I'd spring for this in a heartbeat. Absolutely up to your amazing standards. Thanks for your contribution to the community, Bob!
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Re: Dave's shortshift - now under Bob Brown's management

Postby brijo » Tue 10.01.2012, 16:57

I have one of Dave's original short shift kits. I've had it for 2 years now and never got round to fitting it. If anybody would like to offer me a reasonable price, (cost me £78) I think I ought to let it go. This is the one that looks like this.

Drop me a PM if you're interested, thank you.
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