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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby Rice crispy » Sun 16.09.2012, 21:23

Fredster wrote::m100:

Hi boys

Recently bought a red Calypso - 33 000Km/20 505 miles - and I´m having problem´s replacing the rear brakes (still stock ones).

Questions: do you recomend the rear hub conversion? What cost can i expect by joining the group?

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Hi this group buy is for hubs and disks to keep standard so won't affect the balance with the front. Cost was about £140 iirc

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby bobbrown » Sun 16.09.2012, 22:51

lansledj wrote:Hi this group buy is for hubs and disks to keep standard so won't affect the balance with the front. Cost was about £140 iirc

David



The hub conversion works with the standard brake calipers with the addition of a pair of low cost disc (GM) which cost around £20.00 a pair in the UK.
They are also needed if you are considering changing you rear brakes as it makes it possible to then change the disc size etc which you can not do with the standard combined hub/disc.

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby Elanlover » Mon 17.09.2012, 02:28

bobbrown wrote: The hub conversion works with the standard brake calipers with the addition of a pair of low cost disc (GM) which cost around £20.00 a pair in the UK.
They are also needed if you are considering changing you rear brakes as it makes it possible to then change the disc size etc which you can not do with the standard combined hub/disc.

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See, that's what happens when you do the full brake conversion and upgrade the calipers. You forget all about those who like to keep it simple. ;-)
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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby Fredster » Mon 17.09.2012, 11:58

Elanlover wrote:
bobbrown wrote: The hub conversion works with the standard brake calipers with the addition of a pair of low cost disc (GM) which cost around £20.00 a pair in the UK.
They are also needed if you are considering changing you rear brakes as it makes it possible to then change the disc size etc which you can not do with the standard combined hub/disc.

Bob



See, that's what happens when you do the full brake conversion and upgrade the calipers. You forget all about those who like to keep it simple. ;-)

:m100:
Agree Elanlover.

That´s why I haven´t done the full brake conversion.

Bought instead the EBC Turbo Brake Front Discs, Greenstuff pads and now seriously considering the Rear Hub conversion.

Since the car failed the MOT test - low braking performance - need to change the rear brakes fast. :banghead:

Will Bob start production and delivery of the goods before reaching the 25 orders?

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby Rice crispy » Mon 17.09.2012, 12:24

Fredster


Bought instead the EBC Turbo Brake Front Discs, Greenstuff pads and now seriously considering the Rear Hub conversion. ( did this when i got mine a few years ago and it did improve things albeit marginally, whereas Hi-spec or other upgrade really makes a difference)

Since the car failed the MOT test - low braking performance - need to change the rear brakes fast. :banghead: this is more likely to be the sliders than hubs? although the disks can be troublesome.

Will Bob start production and delivery of the goods before reaching the 25 orders? unlikely as he has to order all the material to make them and its a hobby not a business to him


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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby bobbrown » Mon 17.09.2012, 12:43

The hubs I get made as they require a level of precision that although I can achieve for the numbers involved would be time consuming plus there is a curved face which is far easier on a CNC lathe.
You have to bear in mind the hub must run true and the face the disc sits on must have the minimal run out other wise the run out on the disc will be magnified. FYI: the max run out is 0.004" ideally less than 1/10th of that.

Hence I get these CNC machined with tight tollerances where it matters and the cost is dependant on the numbers, more equals less and I try to keep a balance of cost against numbers. A pair is just not economic and it is not until the numbers are larger does the job as a whole become more viable.

As a side note the original discs can be machined either on the car or off the car but it depends on how much material is left.

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby paulsmithmk » Mon 17.09.2012, 12:47

bobbrown wrote:
lansledj wrote:Hi this group buy is for hubs and disks to keep standard so won't affect the balance with the front. Cost was about £140 iirc

David



The hub conversion works with the standard brake calipers with the addition of a pair of low cost disc (GM) which cost around £20.00 a pair in the UK.
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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby Fredjohn » Tue 18.09.2012, 19:25

Hopefully I've added my name to the list. Bob any problems please let me know. Ta

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby m100sandra » Thu 04.10.2012, 17:56

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby texaselite » Mon 15.10.2012, 16:18

Assuming this will install seamlessly on a FED car, I am in!

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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby chriswoodsny » Wed 17.10.2012, 00:14

So now we are 16! Just 9 to go.......
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Re: Rear Hub conversion

Postby Sy V » Sun 28.10.2012, 08:34

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