"B" Post Caps - How many need replacements?

[Brit-Car-Nut]

The samples have been shipped from China. Wayne expects his in a few days and FedEX says mine might arrive as soon as tomorrow.

Pictures will be posted as soon as they are fit and tested..

Please remind everyone you know that this is a ONE TIME production run. Get on the list if you need spare or replacement "B" Post Covers!

[Fredjohn]

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Later
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Early
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Late
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - late
58. Fredjohn - Later
59.
60.
61.
62.
63.
64.

[chris.t]

defo interested but not sure which type i have - will confirm later.

[daveiow]

I will take a spare set but will not be near the car to check type till the weekend

David

[Jeemy]

Apologies, I'd forgotten all about this. Checked mine and they are later style.

Have updated the list, and appended the last 2 guys as TBC to it.

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Later
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Later
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Late
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - late
58. Fredjohn - Later
59. daveiow - TBC
60. chris.t - TBC
61.
62.
63.
64.

[Brit-Car-Nut]

Thanks

[Brit-Car-Nut]

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Early
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Later
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Late
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - late
58. Fredjohn - Later
59. daveiow - TBC
60. chris.t - TBC
61.
62.
63.
64.
65.
66.
67.
68.
69.
70.

[housam]

Can you please add me for another early set and remove the later set off the list for me !

[Brit-Car-Nut]

Done. Thanks.

[wayne]

I picked up the samples a few days ago. I am happy with the overall shape & fit of the caps although as we used a new cap for the 3D scan a slight trim may be required for the hinge & fwd corner.

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DSC07568.JPG

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Ok. Trying to be as critical as possible here:

Texture although not a perfect match. I think is close enough for it not to look out of place I knew they couldn't match the exact texture.

Sidewall is about 0.4mm thicker than the original But I guess that this will make the parts stronger. The Hinge attachment is definatly going to be alot more robust than the original.

My main concerns are that for some reason the early style cap arrived in 2 halves but other than this they look very good. I am assuming that they did this so as we could clearly inspect both pieces.

The later cap seems to have a splatter caused by the screw inserts. We may have to live with this on the lower surface. But unfortunatly it is also noticable on the upper surface.

1 of the screw inserts is also inserted too deep.

I have emailed the company to ask if they can cure these problems. My main concern is the splatter effect that is visible on the outer surface and the early cap not being assembled.

The insert problem is an easy fix but better to ask if it can be cured before they go into production.

The colour is also a shade or 2 too dark. I will see if they can do a better colour match. As they took the colour from a new part it may not be as far out as I think from comparing it to sunburnt set. Like the escutcheons we may have to accept as close as they can get to the sample.

There is also a slight shrinkage of the material where the posts are. There is probably nothing we can do about this.

John was kind enough to take some good quality photos of the parts which are available Here

I hope to have an answer to my questions in the next few days. If anyone has any other concern or suggestions how to make these better please let me know before they go into production.

Many thanks

Wayne

[wayne]

This was the reply I received today: Answers in red.
I have added some more pictures of the old style cap to the drop box folder listed in the previous post. Hope to have more updates soon.

I have asked for best / strongest way to be used to join the early caps. and if they can fix the splatter & deep insert I would be happy. Colour and shrinkage improvement would be a bonus but I can not guarantee it.... Especially the shrinkage.... To be honest it is barely noticeable. Just thought I would ask



Thank you for the samples. Both John and myself have received them and both share the same concerns.

1. The 2 parts of the Old style cap (that was sent from the US) Look good But we were expecting this to arrive as a 1 piece part the same as the original. I assume that you sent us this part in 2 individual pieces so as we could look at it more closely?

I trust that the production parts will be secured together when we receive them?

As we received these parts un-assembled we are unable to check the parts fit and work correctly.
I will be sending the 1 part that you sent me off to a friend in Europe tomorrow for him to compare it to his parts and to see it it will fit the car.

We see that the samples from US was glued together with two seperate parts, so if you like, we could glue them together before shipment.


2. The New style caps seem to have a splatter on the textured surface. This is also visible on the lower surface.

I think this is probably caused by the process used for inserting the brass screw inserts??

The marks on the lower surface are not a problem and I can live with this. But any marks on the upper surface would be un acceptable and would render the part scrap.

Please can you confirm that this will not be on production parts?

Do not worry about splatter, it's not mold problem. because the material was not dried totally, there are some splatter on surface. It's same for other plastic products. For mass production, as only as the material is totally dried, the problem will happen.

3. Looking at the brass screw inserts. 1 of the inserts is too deep and is unusable. This is consistent on all samples. Please could this issue be fixed?
I will check here and get back to you, do you mean the left insert in attached pic is too deep, right?

4. I noticed marks on the outer surface where the lugs were installed?? I assume this is the shrinkage that you mentioned earlier? I assume that there is nothing that you can do to rectify this?

Sorry i donnot understand the problem well, could you take some pics to show me the problem?

5.The colour of all parts seem very dark compared to the samples we sent and looking at the parts installed on myy car they look very dark....

Color problem could be resolved, donnot worry.

[Nippy]

Hi. Good read! Please add me, later type, thank you.

[daveiow]

Hello all
Could somebody please amend my entry on the list to later type (I obviously can't edit another's posts)
Thanks to all concerned

daveiow

[WienLot]

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Early
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Later
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Late
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - late
58. Fredjohn - Later
59. daveiow - Later
60. chris.t - TBC
61. Nippy - Later
62.
63.
64.
65.
66.
67.
68.
69.
70.

[wayne]

It seems that the earlier issues have been resolved.

Winelot has received the 1 side cap that I sent and was kind enough to take some pictures of the fit.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlikg2dnrw4up ... ize%20.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pttb3mezlk2bw ... ize%20.JPG

I believe the only concerns were the colour and the front edge of the back part was not parallel with the front of the cap.
Not really sure how this happened? Fortunately it does not seem to be a problem.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/56gk62znplp0l ... ent%20.JPG

I think I may have found out why I just received 1 old style cap

It seems that the other 1 has been doing some weight training.
The company have glued it together and It has been tested with 2.3 kg for several days and then 4.6kg for a few more days.
Hopefully the springs will not be applying anywhere near this pressure.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fl7efkx8nzsjt ... -07_85.jpg

Having a look at the New style cap this afternoon. It seems that the fouling on the outer corner is minimal I had to remove less than 1mm.

The company believe that they have found a match for the colour. It is difficult to work out from the photo but it looks way closer than the black
samples. My sunburnt B post covers have a definite blue tint to them.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fz7u7loc0dz8c ... 283%29.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2eehp2wlbs2gr7k/DSC07594.JPG

[lotusnut]

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Early
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Later
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Late
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - late
58. Fredjohn - Later
59. daveiow - Later
60. chris.t - TBC
61. Nippy - Later
62. Lotusnut - later
63.
64.
65.
66.
67.
68.
69.
70.[/quote]

[mitreklov]

Would you please add me to your list for a set of the early style caps please.

Many thanks

Mitreklov

[Brit-Car-Nut]

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Early
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Later
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Later
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - later
58. Fredjohn - Later
59. daveiow - Later
60. chris.t - TBC
61. Nippy - Later
62. Lotusnut - Later
63. mitreklov - Early
64.
65.
66.
67.
68.
69.
70.

[Faeview]

I would be very interested in a pair of the earlier model.

[Brit-Car-Nut]

1. Brit-Car-Nut - Later
2. DeanG - Later
3. JohnB - Early
4. Dunnlor - Later
5. Fredflanagan - Early
6. Wayne - Later
7. NSR-250 - Later
8. Wienlot - Early
9. Cliff - Early
10. Nicowalker1 - Early
11. lotustonybassplayer - Early
12. Jimbo - Early
13. Ladythorpe2 - Later
14. TrevorB - Later
15. Nobby - Later
16. Steve M. - Later
17. theelanman - Later
18. pjw12 - Early
19.Tekrace - Later
20. rip - Early
21. rip - Early
22. rip - Early
23. andyp - Early
24. inkitin - Early
25. SteveB - Later
26. TTE200 - Early
27. BDC Peter- Later
28. DavidEJM - Later
29. Debchgo - Later
30. Basher - Later
31. PerS - Early
32. Lotus54 - Later
33. MPx - Later
34. housam - Early
35. housam - Early
36. markv - Later
37. Gareth - Later
38. Carlotus - Later
39. Jeemy - Later
40. Monty - Later
41. Harvey - Early
42. Axel-F - Later
43. Miller - Later
44. Geoff - Later
45. Epipete - Later
46. Ladythorpe2 - Later
47. Paul30 - Later
48. Elanlover - Later
49. Paulous - Later
50. John_W - Later
51. Mauveelan - Early
52. Wienlot - Early (#2)
53. ghunterglas - Early
54. clarkerussell - later
55. markv - Later (second set)
56. Router - early
57. Router - later
58. Fredjohn - Later
59. daveiow - Later
60. chris.t - TBC
61. Nippy - Later
62. Lotusnut - Later
63. mitreklov - Early
64. Faeview - Early
65.
66.
67.
68.
69.
70.