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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby clemo » Mon 28.03.2016, 12:11

simonbuk wrote:Does this one hand a bit of history on here ?!

not as far as i am aware of ( others may say otherwise)
if you go back a few pages there was a bit of a " what to do with the bonnet" conversation going on .

It just keeps popping up ( usually in the wrong sections in cars ) and is rather recognisable thats all .
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby dapinky » Mon 28.03.2016, 17:42

Rambo wrote:Surely this practice is unfair to genuine bidders as the price is bumped up by rogues ? It is also illegal :?


It is a bit of a common ploy by 'chance bidders' who's only intention is to test the reserve figure set by the buyer. Basically, when a reserve is set, there is no way of establishing what it is (unless the seller states what it is set at!) until a bid reaches it - so you can be the high bidder, having entered a bid of (for example) $4K, but if it hasn't hit the reserve, then the site will still show your bid as being just over the next highest bidder - so could be at £1.2K.

If a bidder throws in a high bid (over the reserve) he will become the winning bidder at the reserve price, and everyone knows where they stand, and things continue as normal to the end of the auction.

The only people who know what the reserve is now set at are the seller, and maybe whoever has retracted any bid over the reserve, having established it, they then retract the bid with some made-up excuse, and we are none the wiser.

The only way to prevent this sort of behaviour, and keep things transparent for everyone, is to change the way the sales are listed.

I fully appreciate that a low start price will encourage initial bidding and interest, but does little to establish 'value' - we all (possibly) accept that the only 'real' bids are the first and the last ones - the rest just fill up the week!

Personally, i'd rather see them remove the 'reserve' facility, and the seller simply starts the sale at a price they are prepared to sell it for - but that isn't in the interests of ebay. After all, they are a business and their sole interest is to generate as much money as possible for themselves - and they can do that by selling you the facility of set a reserve.

If I were to list a car (as I have done in the past), I'll either start it at my lowest acceptable price, or stick it up for a high price (classified ad?) to showcase it, and invite interested parties to make contact to discuss a real selling price.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby clemo » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:13

Margaret 65 BRG relisted

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-LOTUS-EL ... SwvFZW7pFe
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby andys2cars » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:26

Back! been to Lotus Land! (Norfolk) We are a bit worried about these dodgy bidders.
But what can we do?
Also.................... getting away from this thread (sorry moderators) been looking on fleabay and saw cars "unrecordered" and it is quite shocking the state some of the cars are in, so you could pay top money for a car that has been bodged up and is possibly dangerous to drive, and cars like mine with little damage and fully inspected cannot get half decent money, and caT D's can vary so much depending on the examiner. I sometimes give up about this country "Yee Haa" cowboys rule????
Hope you all had a good easter :)
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby SimonR » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:36

clemo wrote:Margaret 65 BRG relisted

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-LOTUS-EL ... SwvFZW7pFe


I asked about that and apparently he "has a few" and is selling up and moving ... Asked about the sill condition and he just said they will all have some rot there ...
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby andys2cars » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:47

Hi Simon, in ad he says he is selling as he has just bought another one??
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:48

andys2cars wrote:Back! been to Lotus Land! (Norfolk) We are a bit worried about these dodgy bidders.
But what can we do?
Also.................... getting away from this thread (sorry moderators) been looking on fleabay and saw cars "unrecordered" and it is quite shocking the state some of the cars are in, so you could pay top money for a car that has been bodged up and is possibly dangerous to drive, and cars like mine with little damage and fully inspected cannot get half decent money, and caT D's can vary so much depending on the examiner. I sometimes give up about this country "Yee Haa" cowboys rule????
Hope you all had a good easter :)


Maybe you should report these "cowboys" to the EBay police for acting inappropriately and illegally ;-)
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby clemo » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:57

Andy .. are these unrecorded elans?
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby SimonR » Tue 29.03.2016, 23:03

andys2cars wrote:Hi Simon, in ad he says he is selling as he has just bought another one??


This was his exact reply to me

"i have lots of these , they are all in my name ,i am selling up and moving away , no heating issues ever ,wishbones new brakes new ,all electrics work and just MOT d , 5 owners before me. Cheers"

And when asking about the sills

"yes the siii beams , at 26 yrs oid they wiii aii have some rot there as they ieak iike sieves,the carpets have never been out so i cant honestiy answer your question, however the car has never been ieft outside to the eiements in the three years its been with me ,i cant feei anything crumbiy underneath the carpets and there are no creaks and groans on the move Apoiogies for using (i ) instead of the correct ietter which has faiied Regards"
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby andys2cars » Wed 30.03.2016, 11:43

Hi Clemo, don't panic mr Mannering!! no not elans, just cars in general
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby simonbuk » Mon 04.04.2016, 18:33

Dissappeared from listing - been sold apparantly.
Black S2 No.357
Aqua Blue S2 No.385
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Wed 06.04.2016, 07:39

Blackie = £5300
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby simonbuk » Wed 06.04.2016, 08:02

Rambo wrote:Blackie = £5300


Indeed :wink:
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby muley » Wed 06.04.2016, 11:17

Rambo wrote:Blackie = £5300


Blowed if I can see it..



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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Wed 06.04.2016, 21:24

muley wrote:
Rambo wrote:Blackie = £5300


Blowed if I can see it..

Jim


Should've gone to Specsavers Jim :twisted:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Elan-M1 ... SwLpdW9rhN
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby simonbuk » Thu 07.04.2016, 14:35

New one appeared on Ebay, N/A model, kept quiet about the mileage but MOT shows 146K.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOTUS-ELAN-GR ... 1932468159
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby simonbuk » Thu 07.04.2016, 17:54

There like buses.......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Elan-M1 ... 1774559399
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Thu 07.04.2016, 20:52

simonbuk wrote:There like buses.......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Elan-M1 ... 1774559399


Yeah, but usually the wrong number and the wrong destination :lol: :twisted:
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Thu 07.04.2016, 21:36

simonbuk wrote:New one appeared on Ebay, N/A model, kept quiet about the mileage but MOT shows 146K.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOTUS-ELAN-GR ... 1932468159


"the usual Lotus electric problems"

News to me :cry:
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Jamie N » Thu 07.04.2016, 22:20

Rambo wrote:
simonbuk wrote:New one appeared on Ebay, N/A model, kept quiet about the mileage but MOT shows 146K.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOTUS-ELAN-GR ... 1932468159


"the usual Lotus electric problems"

News to me :cry:

He needs lessons from Rambo on how to word an ad !. :o
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