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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Thu 18.06.2020, 20:52

apollo996 wrote:
Rambo wrote:
apollo996 wrote:Enlighten me on the complete ones I have sold ? I remember a yellow S2 5+ years ago, Green S2 more recently and a red Elan SE I decided to sell as a project. That's all ever.


Don't forget the rare metallic pacific blue one in 2016 Apollo (H312 VVG) :wink:

simonbuk wrote:And this one looks in very good condition -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-LOTUS-EL ... Swd3dXFo4R


Ah yes thanks Rambo. Make that 4 in 10 years. Forgot that one. How many have you had Rambo just out of interest ?


If you must know, 3 in 16 years and I've reluctantly sold one
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby dapinky » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:02

apollo996 wrote:Trade plates were the re-sprayers. They delivered the car back.


Displayed illegally, but we'll overlook that as it's not your problem :wink:


apollo996 wrote:TBH its become a hassle selling the Elan. I'm in two minds whether to keep it or break it....


This would concern me personally, as you clearly stated to the guy you bought it from that it would be restored (within 12 months) and NOT be broken........ it was on that basis that he went ahead with the sale to you, and not to anyone else - and, yes, I'll declare a bit of a personal interest in this as I was one of those who 'bowed out' at that point as my desire was to see a repairable car saved for the future.....

...... obviously, a verbal "Gentlemens' agreement" holds no water on a legal basis, and the car is yours to do with as you wish, but it would leave a bit of a nasty aftertaste.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:13

:agree: Dave

As Taco, the previous owner stated...
Taco_Sieburgh wrote:assurances he could fix the car, and backing that up by accepting to sign an extra contractual clause that a very substantive extra payment will be due to me if not back on the road in a year
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby apollo996 » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:18

It is back on the road.....
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby dapinky » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:20

I think we can all agree that it is too good to break, and I really hope that it finds a good home with someone who wants the car to drive and use and not just as an investment......

.....I don't think that there is any doubt that all work has been done to a high standard, using good parts, and that it is often a necessity to break a car and not repair it, so that many others can have an extended life.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby apollo996 » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:22

:clap:
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Nickydee » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:37

dapinky wrote:
apollo996 wrote:Trade plates were the re-sprayers. They delivered the car back.


Displayed illegally, but we'll overlook that as it's not your problem :wink:


apollo996 wrote:TBH its become a hassle selling the Elan. I'm in two minds whether to keep it or break it....


This would concern me personally, as you clearly stated to the guy you bought it from that it would be restored (within 12 months) and NOT be broken........ it was on that basis that he went ahead with the sale to you, and not to anyone else - and, yes, I'll declare a bit of a personal interest in this as I was one of those who 'bowed out' at that point as my desire was to see a repairable car saved for the future.....

...... obviously, a verbal "Gentlemens' agreement" holds no water on a legal basis, and the car is yours to do with as you wish, but it would leave a bit of a nasty aftertaste.


I see like the rather like your rather unpleasant replies to my original posts which you amended with
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you have chosen to remove your comments about breaking the car.

You posted on the forum at the time of purchase that you had agreed to pay a substantial penalty if you broke the car within 12 months and provided written proof. Guess what you have now owned the car for a year and few days and are threatening to break it. That says it all.

I have no problem with anybody making a business out what is essentially a hobby for most of us, but anybody who masquerades as an enthusiast when if fact they are running a business is my mind being dishonest. Perhaps you have set out to deceive and then removed posts which incriminate you. Your listing on Ebay for the Elan is a business sale so any purchaser has statutory rights irrespective of whether you state otherwise in the advert As a business seller you saved two pounds on that classified Ebay ad, hardly significant on £7,500 item. Perhaps you have been rumbled in the past and now have no option to list as a business seller.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby apollo996 » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:39

Wtf ?
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Nickydee » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:43

apollo996 wrote:Wtf ?


I have just quoted this in case Apollo makes an edit!
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Nickydee » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:44

Oh too late he already has!!!!
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby apollo996 » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:45

R u feeling ok ? I might have some seats as well. Quick copy it :lol:
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby apollo996 » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:49

:asleep:
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby GeoffSmith » Thu 18.06.2020, 21:54

Play nicely please and don't fret about the amendments DickyKnee because original posts are all captured for posterity on the forum backup.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Thu 18.06.2020, 22:02

Nickydee wrote:..anybody who masquerades as an enthusiast when if fact they are running a business is my mind being dishonest. Perhaps you have set out to deceive and then removed posts which incriminate you


:agree:

C'mon Geoff, buy those wheels FFS. You could flog 'em to Callmelegend for the Big Orange :wink:

PS weren't you wanting a VW for those trips to Spain come post lockdown ?
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby dapinky » Thu 18.06.2020, 22:17

I'm confused at the moment.... there has been so much editing, quoting, missquoting and deleting that I'm unsure exactly who was asking if I were either Columbo or Miss Marple (with alluding to the latter).......

.....clearly I am neither, otherwise I'd probably have already looked at the admin logs and seen who has amended their posts to hide the fact that it may not have been a brilliant thing to post.....

..... that's always assuming that I give a rats arse about what people call me - but I'd rather that if someone has something to say to/about me, that they have the moral fortitude to not say it behind my back, as at the moment, I can only assume that someone actually posted it, then thought better of it, and deleted it......... but they ain't quite as quick as the server hosting this forum.

Ho hum, I'm off back to a Facebook group where I'm in a deep political arguement between 2 of my local County Councillors who can't play nicely either.....
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Rambo » Thu 18.06.2020, 22:37

GeoffSmith wrote:Play nicely please and don't fret about the amendments DickyKnee because original posts are all captured for posterity on the forum backup.


Another 3 or 4 posts edited and all text deleted in the last wee while
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Nickydee » Thu 18.06.2020, 22:56

Think it was Miss Marple with her dicky knee that was the subject of the editing of posts rather than the far more revered Colombo. But can I just say Pinky I think your Peugeot 403 cabriolet is appalling. :poke: Really like to buy it and put it back on ebay in pieces ...sorry back on the road. This post will self edit in 10 seconds.......
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Graaf » Fri 19.06.2020, 09:07

Speaking from personal experience, test driving the Medina one may be problematic as w hen I went to have a look at the yellow one he had for sale a few years ago he wouldn’t take me for a test drive unless I put a deposit down. I was then classed as a time waster.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby Nickydee » Fri 19.06.2020, 09:29

Graaf wrote:Speaking from personal experience, test driving the Medina one may be problematic as w hen I went to have a look at the yellow one he had for sale a few years ago he wouldn’t take me for a test drive unless I put a deposit down. I was then classed as a time waster.


A common tactic used by disreputable backstreet traders but unusual behaviour for a private seller don't you think.
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Re: ALL CARS ON EBAY.

Postby tb10 » Fri 19.06.2020, 14:05

I must admit that when the member first signed up it appeared that they were interested in M100's. Given that this is an enthusiast's forum, help was at hand but then it quickly transpired that the newbie was not an enthusiast at all but someone who euthanized M100's. Whilst it has been pointed out that spare parts are handy, and that there is a market, to break a car that is restorable is not what this forum is about. Is it, therefore, any wonder they get short shrift from others?

The main issue for me is that the claims made are untrue (such as parts being "in the shed for over a decade" or that they are "out of these cars now" or "two seats are no good" (the second time that's been used 8) ) etc. Quite simply, they are only an enthusiast about making money and the assertion that they are not operating a company ( :lol:) is pure fantasy.

Clearly, they are becoming persona non grata (if not already) but that is, in my opinion, no fault of anyone on here, save for the individual concerned.

I note the test drive debacle above, but I hope the car sells then normality may return to this forum. I say 'may' as I suspect that there's a stack load of spare parts that haven't sold and which could be offloaded................but they may end up in landfill: "because I can"! It would be nice if a parts pool could be arranged but then that wouldn't make good 'business' sense!

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