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End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby clemo » Sun 07.11.2021, 17:00

Hi All ,
Myself and Mr Pink will be participating in a nice little jaunt from England to The Gambia on Friday 13th of January 2023 . A few thousand miles taking in France , Spain , Morocco , Western Sahara , Mauritania , Senegal and finally Gambia. Roads , No roads , Dust tracks and Desert.
I have previously succeeded and failed this route before back in the early 2000's . Once in my end of life transit van that went on to serve a local village for another 6 year as an ambulance .... So much for Uk Mot's to clam roadworthy'ness. And 2nd time not so well in a Kia Besta van with Will blackham from on here .

If anyone has a vehicle that they are thinking of getting rid of due to ULZ or will fail it MOT and is going to be scrapped ( but still runs well) we would love to have it and pass it on to a charity ( or be sold on behalf of the charities) .

I know beggars can't be choosers but something with good ground clearance would be ideal.

Many thanks for reading this and keeping your eyes and ears peeled .
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby Rambo » Sun 07.11.2021, 19:50

Did you mean to type 2023 or 2022 Clemo?

I presume the "banger" still needs some MOT on it to allow it to be driven with insurance? Or not? I will keep my eyes peeled.

Good luck with your venture :burnout:
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby dapinky » Mon 08.11.2021, 10:25

Rambo wrote:Did you mean to type 2023 or 2022 Clemo?

I presume the "banger" still needs some MOT on it to allow it to be driven with insurance? Or not? I will keep my eyes peeled.

Good luck with your venture :burnout:


Nope - he was correct with the date - so over a year to source a suitable vehicle.....

Obviously, there is a big difference between an MOT failure and a 'dangerous vehicle' - lack of meeting a UK standard would not preclude it's use elsewhere - as long as it is safe to drive. To that end, someone whose car fails needing a few hundred quid in welding and new suspension may get scrapped when it goes really well - and can be repaired at little actual cost (other than time).

A few days/weeks of MOT would make life easier for sure, but even trailering it to the ferry port may be a consideration....
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby Rambo » Mon 08.11.2021, 14:49

At least that gives you a year for planning and looking for a suitable vehicle. I think Clemo mentioned high clearance so Geoff's red scrapper will be no good then :lol:

What about drive? Is 2wd good enough or are you preferably after 4wd?

Edited.... sorry, just re-read the title :oops: so 4x4 it is then
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby GeoffSmith » Mon 08.11.2021, 18:44

clemo wrote:…Spain , Morocco…

Barcelona, Almeria, Motril or Malaga?
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby clemo » Mon 08.11.2021, 21:19

Rambo wrote:At least that gives you a year for planning and looking for a suitable vehicle. I think Clemo mentioned high clearance so Geoff's red scrapper will be no good then :lol:

What about drive? Is 2wd good enough or are you preferably after 4wd?

Edited.... sorry, just re-read the title :oops: so 4x4 it is then


Beggars can't be choosers . Anything hi up would be nice , 2wd is fine my transit was. Some MPV's are good . The Espace was decent , that kind of thing thank you Mark . Geoffs red scrapper you say ? i know he hasn't driven the elan much this year but i didn't think it was that bad.
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby clemo » Mon 08.11.2021, 21:20

GeoffSmith wrote:
clemo wrote:…Spain , Morocco…

Barcelona, Almeria, Motril or Malaga?


Whatever gets to your gaff for an overnight wine tasting .
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby GeoffSmith » Mon 08.11.2021, 21:42

clemo wrote:
GeoffSmith wrote:
clemo wrote:…Spain , Morocco…

Barcelona, Almeria, Motril or Malaga?


Whatever gets to your gaff for an overnight wine tasting .

I'm pretty sure we're going to be in Bristol that week. :-D
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby dapinky » Tue 09.11.2021, 18:00

GeoffSmith wrote:I'm pretty sure we're going to be in Bristol that week. :-D


That's okay - I can collect the keys on the way through :lol: :lol:
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby alan e » Wed 10.11.2021, 11:05

Start a go fund me page so we can put the odd shilling in it then you may be able to buy the car you want that is best for the job.
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby Saltire » Wed 10.11.2021, 11:32

alan e wrote:Start a go fund me page so we can put the odd shilling in it then you may be able to buy the car you want that is best for the job.

And I’d contribute too :D But it raises an interesting question: what would be the best 4x4 for the job? My immediate thoughts are an LWB Land Rover County or a Toyota Land Cruiser. Or - if you really want to be off the wall - how about putting an Elan shell onto a SWB series 3 LR chassis. About 1/2 inch difference in the wheelbase . . .

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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby TrevorB » Wed 10.11.2021, 20:23

Good Luck with this project it looks interesting.
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby clemo » Mon 15.11.2021, 14:29

Thank you Trevor , Jonathan , Alan

I am really not sure what the best banger would be. Something French just incase it breaks down but there in lies the problem . Something french will break down!. There was quite a horrible renault scenic 4x4 that friends took down to Kazakstan when my Espace failed . That seemed good as pretty bad french things go . A landy would be great though i understand that the wheel bearings don't hold up to well (or is that the range rover) but yes that would plod on well .
An ex ambulance would be the ultimate gift to pass on if anyone has any ties to that kind of thing ?
A London taxi would be fun and daft .But to be absolutely honest anything free must be considered not just 4x4's

Ultimately the highest priority is to actually make it 4000 odd miles to The Gambia .

Thank you ever so much for your interest in our jaunt .
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby Blaster » Mon 15.11.2021, 20:29

Saltire wrote:
alan e wrote:Start a go fund me page so we can put the odd shilling in it then you may be able to buy the car you want that is best for the job.

And I’d contribute too :D But it raises an interesting question: what would be the best 4x4 for the job? My immediate thoughts are an LWB Land Rover County or a Toyota Land Cruiser. Or - if you really want to be off the wall - how about putting an Elan shell onto a SWB series 3 LR chassis. About 1/2 inch difference in the wheelbase . . .

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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby Dave Eds » Mon 15.11.2021, 22:55

And I know where you live..
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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby Dave Eds » Tue 16.11.2021, 01:31

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Re: End of uk life 4x4 for Dakar banger challenge

Postby clemo » Tue 16.11.2021, 13:44



Perfect ...
Would be fun to leave the meter running every day too ...
I wonder how much it would clock up as a fare ?
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