Bailey Dump valve or leave standard ?

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Bailey Dump valve or leave standard ?

Postby RichieL » Wed 01.08.2007, 14:46

Hi guys,

I have just got myself a 95 S2 Elan today with 49k on the clock.
Full dealer lotus history, very happy...

With previous turbo cars i have fitted Bailey DV's.

1. Is it of any benefit to fit one, saving life of turbo or slight
performance gain.

2. Leave the stock standard version on the car ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for my ignorance.
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Postby Gazza » Wed 01.08.2007, 14:58

Richie

I'm hoping to fit my Bailey DV30 very soon, there are quite a few people on here that already have various types of Baileys fitted, mainly for the reasons you have stated.

Any chance of letting me know your limited edition number for the S2 register.

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Postby rip » Wed 01.08.2007, 21:35

Gazza,
I expected you to ask about the S2 ltd no, but 12 minutes is impressive.

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Richiel,
Welcome to the forum. Don't be afraid to ask anything. There is plenty of help about.

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Postby Candles » Thu 02.08.2007, 08:13

I have one fitted. My recommendations would be to fit one, but having already sourced a replacement intake hose so that the car can be returned to stock easily. The performance gain is sufficiently negligible that it would have to be measured by some kind of computer on a track and obviously only appears during gear changes. As for turbo life, yes, it probably helps but again, very hard to quantify.

The things it does do: It gets rid of that horrid chattering sound on gear changes as the turbo stalls with the back pressure, and I also 'feel' that it may make it slightly more drivable by removing the car's sensation of continuing to accelerate a moment after the throttle is closed, i.e. the boost falls off instantly as the vacuum develops in the plenum and opens the valve. This is enormously subjective, probably wrong and again, hard to quantify.

I would definitely recommend recirculating the output of the valve as otherwise you'll sound like some sort of eBay Nova turbo-simulator chav, which mine does currently as I haven't reconnected the pipe!

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Postby al » Thu 02.08.2007, 17:35

Candles wrote:The things it does do: It gets rid of that horrid chattering sound on gear changes as the turbo stalls with the back pressure,


Man, I love that sound ! :D
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Postby RichieL » Fri 03.08.2007, 09:12

My car model is 273 for my S2,

Thanks for warm welcome, I took a punt at this car and hopefully
it will pay off. The girlfiend got in it and instantly looked at the 90's
interior and said oh ! Not too sure I like this !!

Anyway, couldn't be bothered to tell her that i didn't purchase it for its lovely interior design!!

My other question is should i fit a K&N filter or just leave the car stock
standard ??

If the DV and filter are worth the performance, driving gain then i will
do it ?

Many thanks for your help guys.

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Postby Gazza » Fri 03.08.2007, 09:34

Richard

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Postby rip » Fri 03.08.2007, 10:33

Richard,
If you are after performance improvements, have a look on this forum for ESM's Everest chip. This will re-program the turbo to give you about an extra 25% power for about £100.

I have not done mine yet, but it is on my list.
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Postby M100 TWO » Fri 03.08.2007, 16:44

if you do use a KN filter you must spray it with there oil first before using it you cannot use it straight out of the box the oil is bought separately
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Postby Enright » Fri 03.08.2007, 17:07

Are you sure about that?
I thought they came pre-oiled, and that you only needed to re-oil them after cleaning.
It's bad news for me if you're right, because I've been running with mine for over 2 years like that. :shock:
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Postby ailwyn » Fri 03.08.2007, 17:09

All the K&N's I've bought (and I bought a few :lol: ) came pre-oiled.
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Postby nitroman » Fri 03.08.2007, 17:43

They come prepared to install. Every 50k miles you are supposed to wash them with the hottest water possible (using water ONLY) from the inside out, so as not to further embed debis into the cotton filter. After completely dry you re-oil.

They are supposed to last a million miles this way.

Almost seems easier just to buy a new one!
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Postby M100 TWO » Fri 03.08.2007, 20:43

If it is red in colour it has been oiled, mine on the end says oil before use so I assumed all had to be oiled before use, but there site says that they are all pre oiled sorry for the confusion
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Postby Enright » Sat 04.08.2007, 09:43

nitroman wrote:They come prepared to install. Every 50k miles you are supposed to wash them with the hottest water possible (using water ONLY) from the inside out, so as not to further embed debis into the cotton filter. After completely dry you re-oil.

They are supposed to last a million miles this way.

Almost seems easier just to buy a new one!

Not meaning to sound argumentative, but I have to dispute this a little too (although only on a technicality)! :)
Being as the air path for ours comes up through the middle, For Elans the outside is actually the inside! :?
So we need to wash our filters from the OUTSIDE (meaning the largest diameter face) as that way it will push any dirt back in the direction from whence it came.
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Postby Monty » Sat 04.08.2007, 10:49

Correct :-D
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