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by **Elanlover** » Sun 23.12.2007, 14:03

1.) Elanlover - CERAMIC (JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
2.) Woody - PCE & Frontpipe-CERAMIC(JH perferably - inside and out) GB
3.) DeanG
4.) Dunnlor - G/B Ceramic
5.) F1 LOTUS - CERAMIC
6.) Paul.P - CERAMIC-GB (JH perferably-inside & out )
7.) Algirdas - CERAMIC (JH preferably-inside and out)
8.) MattDon - G/B

by **nitroman** » Sun 23.12.2007, 19:15

Enright wrote:
ailwyn wrote:
geoffsmith wrote:Can you do anything for us S2 Peco boys who rely on the pre-cat to meet the emissions figures

Why didn't I think of that?

Geoff, that key seem to be that getting a custom exhaust in the us is a piece of p*ss. Hence my struggle to get enough momentum to get a peco S2 sportcat made.

What did you have in mind Geoff?
This will swap out with just 9 bolts. Admittedly the first time you try to move them they will be a tad stiff, but it's about as close as you'll ever get to a quick fix, and you can even get the bottom hole (pardon?!?) machined out of the lower part of the pre-cat to 2 1/4" while it's off.

If you're the unlucky sort they'll machine right through the most concave side, in which case you'll want a PCE standing by! Think I'm joking? I've seen it happen. Just have them sclob a really thick weld on the hole and it should fix ya up.

I had them (machine shop) hand me back one where the metal was so thin I poked through it with a pencil lead!

by **nitroman** » Mon 24.12.2007, 22:20

geoffsmith wrote:Matt,
Can you do anything for us S2 Peco boys who rely on the pre-cat to meet the emissions figures?
Geoff

Yes, I can tell you that the converter used on Bill's IsuzuPerformance Elan exhaust was a Magnaflow 94100 series converter. It comes in every size you'd want while maintaining the same outer dimensions. It's easy enough to find one by Googling Magnaflow 94106 (or 94105 for the 2.25" converter). It's a slip-fit design so should splice into the Peco system fine.

My Merry Christmas to LEC is this: I still have my (Bill's IsuzuPerformance) converter as I was never forced to use it. That's how I was able to tell you the make/model. To whomever has to have a converter I'll give this free to anyone ordering a PCE/front-pipe combination (Only Woody qualifies at THIS second in time. Woody/Enright/moi have flexes already at the shop.), which are $125 & $150 respectively. You can see the original thread on the front-pipe here, with a picture on the next page. At this point though you'll have to ship a flex-section directly to the shop. You want one like a Pace Setter 82-4216. I'll put the shop's address at the bottom of this post. They'll probably knock some off the price of the pipe since you're supplying the flex, but I can't say how much.

Note that Elanlover or anyone else currently ordering a PCE but not a front-pipe can have a front-pipe if they send a flex-section to the shop while I'm away in Wai'tu kubuli. I'll drop by the shop on Jan/4/2008. If your flex arrives the week following, that will be fine; just let me know it's on the way there.

Stage 6 Motorsports
c/o Ricky RE Matthew Welsh
5105 Phillips Hwy
Jacksonville, FL 32207

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Just thought to look where I've done business in the past.
http://macmidwest.com/images/catalog.pdf
part number F258
is a 2.5" flex-section listing for $29.xx, about $10 less than the PaceSetter. It's a quality stainless piece made by Mac Performance Products.
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by **algirdas** » Mon 24.12.2007, 22:33

Dear Matt:

I'll take it off of your hands if that is okay with you. Rumor has it that the reason Larimer County dropped its emissions programs is that it is readying a more Nazi-like program for 2008 with implementation in 2009. Its the one where you drive by some innocent looking boxes by the side of the road and a few days later you get a ticket in the mail.

I'm sure that's going to be REAL popular.

Sincerely,

Algirdas

by **Elanlover** » Mon 24.12.2007, 23:28

Matt, being in Canada its not really feasible for me to source, send to the U.S. then have resent back to me a flex section. I'd be happy to take the mandrell bent pipe and have my exhaust guy mate up a flex section here if that's possible. Not sure what that means for JetHot coating it though as I'm guessing you won't be able to weld the pipe to another section once its coated. Would you even JH coat a flex section?????

At any rate, the PCE, JH coating, gasket, bolts and whatever mandrell bent pipe elnght I can get (so my local guy can cut and weld as needed) would be my ideal order. Let me know if there's any issues with that at all. Thanks!

by **nitroman** » Mon 24.12.2007, 23:42

Elanlover wrote:Matt, being in Canada its not really feasible for me to source, send to the U.S. then have resent back to me a flex section. I'd be happy to take the mandrell bent pipe and have my exhaust guy mate up a flex section here if that's possible. Not sure what that means for JetHot coating it though as I'm guessing you won't be able to weld the pipe to another section once its coated. Would you even JH coat a flex section?????

At any rate, the PCE, JH coating, gasket, bolts and whatever mandrell bent pipe elnght I can get (so my local guy can cut and weld as needed) would be my ideal order. Let me know if there's any issues with that at all. Thanks!

Bair, I ordered the flex for you and am having it shipped directly to the shop. They let me specify a different shipping address than my billing. If anyone else wants a front-pipe please order the flex-section and have it shipped directly to the shop. Thanks, Matt

Ship your flex-section to:

Stage 6 Motorsports
c/o Ricky RE Matthew Welsh
5105 Phillips Hwy
Jacksonville, FL 32207

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Dear Algirdas,
As you are deserving of same I'll waive the requirements. I thought however that you have a 2.25" Peco, while the converter I have is 2.5".

As to RapidScreen*, things like that make me hate technology. The framers of the Constitution would be very disapointed in us, I'm afraid.

*I'd drive them crazy by failing the drive-by while passing the shop-test. Having to physically go for a retest is a small price to pay for dissent.

by **Elanlover** » Tue 25.12.2007, 00:36

Matt, you're the best. Many thanks! Have a nice vacation :smt114

by **nitroman** » Tue 25.12.2007, 01:37

Instant Message wrote:...whats a front pipe and why do some people need them?

I'll let someone else handle that as I've little time left before I expatriate myself. Someone please step up with an answer. Here's a picture to help you along. Expound on:
A) eliminates squish
B) matches outlet size of PCE
C) ?
Those are the dry FACTS. The answer is that it increases power.

by **DeanG** » Mon 31.12.2007, 00:29

Please ceramic coat mine also.

Thanks.

by **Elanlover** » Mon 31.12.2007, 04:24

Matt, just a thought and something to consider if it at all makes sense. I couldn't help but think that there may be some benefit to making a combined PCE/downpipe part here. I mean, if people are looking for a PCE and a downpipe why wouldn't someone make this in a one piece part and eliminate the triangular flange and joint? It could terminate just after the bend in a way that would allow a flex pipe to be welded on the end or just joined up as suits the individual's desires.

Could be a little late for this suggestion but I thought I'd throw it out there.

by **Gazza** » Mon 31.12.2007, 10:30

Paul.P wrote:Matt, will these be jet-hot coated, as we obviously won't be able to use the lower heat shields.

Exactly Gazza.
The top half above the PCE does it's job reasonably well in the available space, seperating the main flow of air through the turbo from the wastegate flow (and then joining it together later), and providing all the heat-shield and O2 sensor mounting points.
But the bottom half is an 'orrible, restrictive big inefficient heavy heat-sink.

Neil or anyone else

Can you not refit the heat sheilds if you fit this PCE, PaulP says you can't but Neil mentions that the sheilds are bolted to the top half of the Pipe that's not being replaced.

Gazza

by **Elanlover** » Mon 31.12.2007, 14:25

There's a pre-cat heat shield that attaches to the pre-cat itself I believe. Perhaps someone can confirm where the mounting bolts go for that one. I think its that shield that would have to be left behind. With JetHot coating you won't need it anyway though.

by **Enright** » Mon 31.12.2007, 17:19

I'd go along with Elanlover on that. The upper (turbo and top half of pre-cat) heat-shield will still bolt in place no problem, and the PCE shouldn't need the lower heat shield as it should retain the heat in the gas and channel it away.

by **GeoffSmith** » Tue 01.01.2008, 20:18

1.) Elanlover - CERAMIC (JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
2.) Woody - PCE & Frontpipe-CERAMIC(JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
3.) DeanG
4.) Dunnlor - G/B Ceramic
5.) F1 LOTUS - CERAMIC
6.) Paul.P - CERAMIC-G/B (JH perferably-inside & out )
7.) Algirdas - CERAMIC (JH preferably-inside and out)
8.) MattDon - G/B[/quote]
9.) Geoff - PCE JH in&out G/B

It should be possible to use the lower heatshield as three of the four mountings are not into the precat. :lol:

by **Enright** » Tue 01.01.2008, 20:55

Geoff, were you thinking that the precat to engine block bracket could be re-used purely for it's lower heat shield mounting points - the red-arrowed bolts?
If not, I'd have thought that holding the lower heat shield in place by just the 2 green ones wouldn't be enough. The mounting lugs would be subject to a lot of flexing and vibration and might snap.

by **GeoffSmith** » Tue 01.01.2008, 21:05

Enright wrote:Geoff, were you thinking that the precat to engine block bracket could be re-used purely for it's lower heat shield mounting points - the red-arrowed bolts?

Yes, if people want to.

by **ailwyn** » Tue 01.01.2008, 21:32

1.) Elanlover - CERAMIC (JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
2.) Woody - PCE & Frontpipe-CERAMIC(JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
3.) DeanG
4.) Dunnlor - G/B Ceramic
5.) F1 LOTUS - CERAMIC
6.) Paul.P - CERAMIC-G/B (JH perferably-inside & out )
7.) Algirdas - CERAMIC (JH preferably-inside and out)
8.) MattDon - G/B[/quote]
9.) Geoff - PCE JH in&out G/B
10.) Ailwyn PCE JH in & out G/B

Thanks.

by **GeoffSmith** » Tue 01.01.2008, 22:07

Attaboy Ailwyn, it's got to be worth a try. :banana:

There's your ten Matt!

by **Gazza** » Tue 01.01.2008, 22:59

1.) Elanlover - CERAMIC (JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
2.) Woody - PCE & Frontpipe-CERAMIC(JH perferably - inside and out) G/B
3.) DeanG
4.) Dunnlor - G/B Ceramic
5.) F1 LOTUS - CERAMIC
6.) Paul.P - CERAMIC-G/B (JH perferably-inside & out )
7.) Algirdas - CERAMIC (JH preferably-inside and out)
8.) MattDon - G/B[/quote]
9.) Geoff - PCE JH in&out G/B
10.) Ailwyn PCE JH in & out G/B
11.) Gazza PCE JH in & out G/B

by **ailwyn** » Tue 01.01.2008, 23:02

I am assuming that as long as I'm keeping the peco then the front pipe/flex section is not required?

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