Making progress : replica 16" wheel/rim with offset +60

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Postby G UK » Fri 18.07.2008, 09:54

I'd be interested in a set of either 16's or 17's as long as they still "look" like standard S2's
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Postby addict » Fri 18.07.2008, 12:04

i would also be interested in some 17" s

be quick tho i need to get 2 new front boots next month .. doa :roll:
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Postby bratboy_y2k » Fri 18.07.2008, 17:07

if they fit, if they are affordable, im sold

http://www.minilitewheels.us/Wheels.aspx
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Postby Nige » Fri 18.07.2008, 22:43

Personal opinion but not convinced the minilite style wheels suit our Elan. When researching fitting BMW Mini wheels to fit our Elan I was given one of the BMW Mini Minilite style wheels It answered all my questions on bolt pattern and spacing and centre bore but the wheel design would not clear my Hi-Spec Billet 4 calipers, I'm sure it would clear the standard brakes though.
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Postby bratboy_y2k » Fri 18.07.2008, 23:09

but that only indicates that the bmw wheel doesnt fit. it doesnt indicate wether or not the minilites will work or not. i actually like the splach of classic in there. i find they work. do you know if the s2 wheels will clear?
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Postby kmckmc » Sun 20.07.2008, 04:25

It seems to me that many other LEC members would prefer 17" S2-style rims.

We all know that for 16" rims, our Elan M100 use 205/45/16 tires.

For 17" rims with proper +60 offset, what kind of tires should be used? I will want to give this piece of information to this guy who has helped me.


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Postby tweetdriver63 » Sun 20.07.2008, 05:45

kmckmc wrote:It seems to me that many other LEC members would prefer 17" S2-style rims.

We all know that for 16" rims, our Elan M100 use 205/45/16 tires.

For 17" rims with proper +60 offset, what kind of tires should be used? I will want to give this piece of information to this guy who has helped me.


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Tirerack.com says 215/40/17 is the 17" replacement. That would be about 1/2 inch bigger diameter overall, and slow the speedo down about 2% (which would make it a little more accurate).

Stock Tire - 205/45R16
>Alternate Tire - 215/40R17

Section Width: 8.07 in 205 mm
>Section Width: 8.46 in 215 mm

Rim Diameter: 16 in 406.4 mm
>Rim Diameter: 17 in 431.8 mm

Rim Width Range: 6.5 - 7.5 in
>Rim Width Range: 7 - 8.5 in

Overall Diameter: 23.26 in 590.80 mm
>Overall Diameter: 23.77 in 603.75 mm

Sidewall Height: 3.63 in 92.202 mm
>Sidewall Height: 3.38 in 85.852 mm

Radius: 11.63 in 295.40 mm
>Radius: 11.88 in 301.75 mm

Circumference: 73.07 in 1855.9 mm
>Circumference: 74.67 in 1896.6 mm

Revs per Mile: 894.2
>Revs per Mile: 875.0

Actual Speed: 60 mph 100 km/h
>Speed on Alternate tire: 58.7 mph 97.8 km/h

Speedometer Difference: - Speedometer Difference: 2.194% too slow
Diameter Difference: - Diameter Difference: 2.15%
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Postby rip » Mon 21.07.2008, 14:37

kmckmc wrote:It seems to me that many other LEC members would prefer 17" S2-style rims.



17" S2-style rims?
I like the sound of that.
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Postby WillB » Mon 21.07.2008, 14:48

Personally, I find the ride on 17"s on an Elan very compromised

16" is the way to go :D
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Postby dapinky » Mon 21.07.2008, 16:01

Whilst i appreciate that Chris is quoting from another source, not specific to the elan, don't forget that if you go up to a 215 width tyre, there MAY be clearance problems on full lock.

I know different people have tried it - some with sucess, others with problems - just to be aware.
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Postby XiPHiAS » Mon 21.07.2008, 17:24

I had 17" on my previous Lotus Elan (see my avatar).
The wheels did fill the wheelgaps better than 16", but the ET was totaly wrong (~ET+43) and messed up my suspension and driving characteristics.

So I am searching for other 17" wheels with a correct ET so I have a nice result and look but keep the good handling of the car.
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Postby rip » Mon 21.07.2008, 17:45

XiPHiAS wrote:
So I am searching for other 17" wheels with a correct ET so I have a nice result and look but keep the good handling of the car.


:smt017 I thought this thread was all about having correctly dimensioned wheels manufactured? :D
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Postby XiPHiAS » Mon 21.07.2008, 18:05

rip wrote:
XiPHiAS wrote:
So I am searching for other 17" wheels with a correct ET so I have a nice result and look but keep the good handling of the car.


:smt017 I thought this thread was all about having correctly dimensioned wheels manufactured? :D

yes and no ...

i'm intrested in 16" replika wheels but prefer the same design into 17" :)
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Postby rip » Tue 22.07.2008, 10:08

XiPHiAS wrote:
rip wrote:
XiPHiAS wrote:
So I am searching for other 17" wheels with a correct ET so I have a nice result and look but keep the good handling of the car.


:smt017 I thought this thread was all about having correctly dimensioned wheels manufactured? :D

yes and no ...

i'm intrested in 16" replika wheels but prefer the same design into 17" :)


That's what I meant. Correctly dimensioned nut spacing & offset. 17" wheels is something I never considered until you mentioned it.
I doubt you can currently get 'em, so will have to get some made.
I believ Michael was gauging interest for S2 replicas with this thread. If there are lots wanting 17" wheels to an S2 pattern, then we may see some manufactured.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops.
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Postby kmckmc » Thu 24.07.2008, 00:56

Before I talk to this wheel/rim maker about the S2-style +60offset 17" wheel/rim, I would like to know which TYRE should be used with this 17" wheel/rim.

Is 215/40/17 the best choice?

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Postby lotusgirlmarie » Thu 24.07.2008, 05:39

I still use 205/40 17". 215 scrubs too much speed for my taste and gets too close to rubbing.
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Postby addict » Thu 24.07.2008, 09:43

ditto 205/40/15
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Postby Nige » Thu 24.07.2008, 18:46

205/40/17 here too (on my BMW Mini track wheels).
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Postby kmckmc » Thu 24.07.2008, 23:27

I also would like to know if you think 205/45/17 is also a good choice.
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Postby lotusgirlmarie » Thu 24.07.2008, 23:31

Nope. Aspect ratio is too high because the rim diameter has been changed. May rub under "spirited" driving.
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