New tyre selection for 15" wheels

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New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Darren » Mon 16.05.2016, 10:20

Hi folks,

I can't remember the last time I posted on LEC but since my car hasn't moved for the last 5 years, it's got to be close to that period.

So if there's anyone still around, I've been challenged by my lad to get the Elan back on the road. I popped a battery on it on Saturday and after a little TLC it fired up without any issues and more importantly held coolant pressure, so I now need 4 new tires, as I wouldn't trust the ones that are on their currently.

Can someone please advise on what the tyre of choice for the 15" variant is these days :)

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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby lotusflasherman » Mon 16.05.2016, 11:50

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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Dave Eds » Mon 16.05.2016, 12:07

Darren

As Phil states the Toyo proxy is a good choice.

I'd be more worried about a cambelt change first though.
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby lotusflasherman » Mon 16.05.2016, 12:45

Dave Eds wrote:Darren

As Phil states the Toyo proxy is a good choice.

I'd be more worried about a cambelt change first though.


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My Eclat stood for a few years with a new belt on it but when I started using it again, after just a few weeks the cambelt shed the teeth from the section that had been 'folded inside out' by the tensioning pulley. Unfortunately the belt didn't break but the toothless part let both cam sprockets slip so I got 16 bent valves... the 'worst case scenario' ? The annoying part is the cambelt on the Eclat is easy to change, getting the head off isn't ... :banghead:
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Fredjohn » Mon 16.05.2016, 13:17

:agree: :agree:

To both points, Toyo Proxes a good choice and cambelt together with water pump idler and tensioner should also be changed.

Tyres have recommended 10yr life, the cambelt 5yrs or mileage, whichever comes first. These days in our cars it's pretty much always 5yrs!

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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Rob P » Mon 16.05.2016, 15:14

I've been running yokohama AD08R tyres on mine for the past year, excellent tyre IMO
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby lotusflasherman » Mon 16.05.2016, 17:21

Fredjohn wrote::agree: :agree:

To both points, Toyo Proxes a good choice and cambelt together with water pump idler and tensioner should also be changed.

Tyres have recommended 10yr life, the cambelt 5yrs or mileage, whichever comes first. These days in our cars it's pretty much always 5yrs!

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I might be swimming against the tide of popular opinion but I'd say 'consider' not 'should' ...

If the belt is being changed because of 50,000 miles, then certainly I'd fit a new tensioner pulley and idler pulley but if it's just an age related change ... then I probably wouldn't. Partly because each is about £75 so I'd be saving £150...

My first SE I used for business and was doing 30k miles per year some years. That got to 6 years old and was on almost 150k miles so had two cambelt changes, with pulleys, but was still on the original water pump.

It's a bit of a pain in the butt to get in to change the cambelt, or waterpump, and can see the argument for changing pump while it's looking at you if you have any doubts about it while you are doing the cambelt ...

but if those things had been done before you left it for 5 years, then cambelt SHOULD be changed, and consider the others...
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby dapinky » Mon 16.05.2016, 17:29

Rob P wrote:I've been running yokohama AD08R tyres on mine for the past year, excellent tyre IMO
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I am a great advocate for Yokohamas - a few quid more than the Toyos, but better grip in dry and wet.

They also wear a bit quicker, but at the sort of mileages we cover in an Elan they will need changing due to age well before they run out of tread!

(PS, welcome back - I last saw you a fair few years ago when you popped down to Castle Combe :D )
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Fredjohn » Mon 16.05.2016, 17:40

lotusflasherman wrote:I might be swimming against the tide of popular opinion but I'd say 'consider' not 'should' ...


Fair point Phil: I was basing my "should" on the basis of "whilst you are in there" as access is so difficult you might as well do it and save the hassle of a repeat performance. But if costs are a major consideration, then only do what is absolutely essential.
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby maz_r » Mon 16.05.2016, 19:32

dapinky wrote:...and wet.


Huh? Wet??? What's that then?
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby rip » Tue 17.05.2016, 09:29

maz_r wrote:
dapinky wrote:...and wet.


Huh? Wet??? What's that then?

It's when I leave the Elan at home & take the daily instead.
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Darren » Tue 17.05.2016, 14:19

Folks,

That's for the info, I did look at the Toyo's as they came up on a Black Circles search, so I think I will get 4 of those ordered, as I haven't got a clue how old my tyres are but I think the rear set were on there when I bought the car i.e like 16 years ago.

Glad I checked in here, as I didn't give the cambelt a thought. I did have the tensioner, pulley, belt and pump all swapped out a little time before the car was mothballed. Looking at the paperwork, it looks like they have only covered around 200 miles since, so I think I will play safe and get the belts swapped as they do perish with age but I think I will take a flyer on the rest, as I can't imaging they will need swapping?

Thanks again, it does feel good to be back, got some way before the car is up and road legal, then I look forward to catching up with some old and new faces.

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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Rambo » Tue 17.05.2016, 20:39

Darren - have a look on the sidewall of your old tyres. It will show the week and year of manufacture. Usually 4 numbers after DOT ie DOT 3907. This means the tyre was manufactured the 39th week in 2007

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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Bolsom » Thu 26.05.2016, 08:25

I have just changed my cambelt. I bought the car in 1993. It had done 17K miles. Its a 91 reg and I imagine on the original cambelt. It had got
to nearly 34K miles. All this on the original belt. The old belt looked identical to the new one in all respects, ie. no cracks or other signs of wear.
The water pump was somewhat corroded but I guess worked OK as the temperature gauge was always at the quarter mark.

I have Toyo's on the rear and they are fine. I scared myself badly to start with as they were inflated to 33lbs pressure which made the car almost
uncontrollable over 75/80mph. Reducing to about 27 has cured that.

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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby dapinky » Fri 27.05.2016, 21:13

Just a heads up, if you are still looking for tyres, I've just had an email from DemonTweeks for their Bank Holiday deals......

....on the Toyo T1-R they are doing a 4 for the price of 3 deal (see here) - basically, you can get 4 205/50R15 tyres for £132.37

This is a bit of a bargain, but you need to grab them this weekend.
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Rambo » Sat 28.05.2016, 07:54

That's an absolute bargain. Less than £35 for a quality tyre. Surprised there aren't M100 owners knocking down the doors !

Pity my 15" wheels have gone :x
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Saltire » Sat 28.05.2016, 09:19

Valid for the S2 also (although 205/45 16s, obviously). A set of 4 is £156.06, compared with "usual price" of £221. This compares with Black Circles at £50.36 each, plus fitting.
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Rambo » Sat 28.05.2016, 09:26

Billy bargain ;-)
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby markv » Mon 06.06.2016, 16:05

Darren wrote:Folks,

That's for the info, I did look at the Toyo's as they came up on a Black Circles search, so I think I will get 4 of those ordered, as I haven't got a clue how old my tyres are but I think the rear set were on there when I bought the car i.e like 16 years ago.

Glad I checked in here, as I didn't give the cambelt a thought. I did have the tensioner, pulley, belt and pump all swapped out a little time before the car was mothballed. Looking at the paperwork, it looks like they have only covered around 200 miles since, so I think I will play safe and get the belts swapped as they do perish with age but I think I will take a flyer on the rest, as I can't imaging they will need swapping?

Thanks again, it does feel good to be back, got some way before the car is up and road legal, then I look forward to catching up with some old and new faces.

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Hi Darren - good to see you on the site again! I ordered 4 Toyos from blackcircles.com - they had the cheapest price and included fitting and wheel balancing at my local garage.... who themselves quoted me more for both other options (source tyres myself, local garage to fit them; local garage to supply and fit tyres). So maybe I could see you at HQ one day for a mini LEC meetup of two Elans?
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Re: New tyre selection for 15" wheels

Postby Bryan M » Mon 28.11.2016, 09:18

The Toyo offer is on again at Demon tweeks - I have just ordered 4 x Toyo 205 50 15 T1-R for £143 :cheers:

link http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/black-fri ... ree-bundle
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