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5th gear

Postby johnny » Sat 08.03.2008, 19:29

Hello,

Anyone got any ideas.. car stuck in 5th gear

clutch seems ok.

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Postby M100 TWO » Sat 08.03.2008, 20:07

when you move the gear stick through the gates, does it move the arms on top of the gear box as it should, if this is the case it could mean that a nut has come off the back end of a shaft it is an easy fix the end cover comes off, screw the nut back up it has happened to some one on here before
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Postby johnny » Sat 08.03.2008, 20:26

The end cover comes off?? does the car need to go on a ramp to get to

the cover?

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Postby Dico » Sat 08.03.2008, 21:07

johnny rotten news.

Look under the expansion tank-ish (where you put water in). Get someone to try changing gear and see if you can see the linkage that is attatched to the gearbox move. Give it a good squirt with WD40 and try wiggling it by hand (they sometimes stick).

Probably won't do owt but good effort from Dico considering I'm half sloshed :-D
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Postby johnny » Sat 08.03.2008, 22:10

Cheers pal..

On the beers are we........ :cheers:
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Postby Candles » Sat 08.03.2008, 22:17

Agree with the above. Look under the coolant header tank and try and see the ends of the gearshift cables. Get you assistant to wiggle the stick and see if anything moves down there. If the cables are still firmly attached and the stick won't move then you have an internal fault. Luckily, this will almost certainly not be right inside the gearbox, it will be in the selector housing.

If you need to move the car and it is actually stuck in gear then unbolt the selector housing (no oil is lost) and you'll see this:

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You need to line up all the selector sliders (use a large, clean screwdriver) and that is neutral. Have a quick test with an assistant having loosely reassembled and check you can get 1-4 + reverse without sticking then tighten the bolts and take the car to where it is needed.

The fix will be one of two things:

1) 5th has a little cam which stops you going from 5th straight to reverse by accident. After I DIY assembled mine once, this was sometimes popping in and sticking it in 5th. I think cable adjustment can affect this.
2) There is a fault with 5th itself inside the workings. This is obviously worse, but 5th is under a cover at the end of the g'box and doesn't necessitate gearbox removal:

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Get your local gearbox specialist in there and let them inspect the synchros etc to see where the fault lies.

So in summary, probably and hopefully a cable end snapped. If not, probably a minor issue in the selctor housing. Failing that, you need a gearbox specialist but it isn't the end of the world.

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Postby Dico » Sat 08.03.2008, 22:51

And failing all that come join me with a bottle of plonk..... or two :lol:

Good luck Johnny, not what you need just before Donny :(
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Postby johnny » Sat 08.03.2008, 23:08

Thanks candles.

:wink:

Dico, if i didnt have work tomorrow.. the micra would be hitting 50 right now. :-D
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Postby Dico » Fri 14.03.2008, 13:52

johnnyrotten, any updates?
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Postby johnny » Fri 14.03.2008, 20:13

Shes not going in till next week. Ive gotta hold tight. :(

My sister wants to come Donnnnnnny this year along with Mrs Johnny,

so ill be taking the GFs ford KA. Not to worried about taking the Elan,

will just be nice to meet everyone. :-)

Oh, the sis thinks you look like George Clooney.... :?
(sorry if ya get any stick.. )

Oh Mrs Dico is sooooo lucky :-D

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Postby Dico » Fri 14.03.2008, 20:47

Johnny I love you :-D And your sister ;-)
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Postby Monty » Fri 14.03.2008, 21:09

johnny wrote:
Oh, the sis thinks you look like George Clooney.... :?
(sorry if ya get any stick.. )



She`ll soon change her mind when she see him at Donny with :smt078 all over his shirt :smt044
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Postby Paul.P » Fri 14.03.2008, 21:18

johnny wrote:Oh Mrs Dico is sooooo lucky :-D


Does Mrs Dico know this ? :lol:
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Postby johnny » Sat 29.03.2008, 23:21

[quote="Candles"]

1) 5th has a little cam which stops you going from 5th straight to reverse by accident. After I DIY assembled mine once, this was sometimes popping in and sticking it in 5th. I think cable adjustment can affect this.

This was the problem :wink:

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