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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby Kathryn » Sun 07.06.2015, 00:52

Prices do seem to be rising, but don't give up looking just yet, I think decent ones do come up at reasonable prices but they sell quickly.
When I was looking I thought I'd need to save a lot more to afford the car I wanted. I paid less than half what those Elans are advertised for just over a year ago. Ok so cosmetically she's not perfect (quite a few chips and scratches) but mechanically she's sound. I've had to spend very little on her, I had to have the old alarm removed and a new oxygen sensor, but nothing else that's not routine maintenance. My hood is good and the only tatty bits are the tops of the A pillars but they are watertight in all but the heaviest deluges and available if I want to replace them. I plan to upgrade the brakes when I have the money, but this isn't essential as the originals are (just about) ok.
Keep looking, if you want an Elan enough you'll find the right one. :D
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby dapinky » Sun 07.06.2015, 10:46

Whilst Elan prices have definately 'bottomed out' over the last year or two (and appear to be slightly rising), there is still the "Seasonal" price difference - a soft top will always command a higher price in the Spring/Summer than in the depth of Winter.

People who currently own them will want to get another Summers use before letting it go, and so there are less private sales around, and dealers try to capitalize on that by (perhaps) inflating prices of the ones they have in stock.

Add that to the fact that over the last 5 years or so, with the bottom end of the market dropping, many 'poor' cars have been broken for spares instead of being sold complete (more cash for the seller) and this just adds to the misery of potential purchasers as there are less of them on the road.

Good cars at a good (fair?) price do come up from time to time, but they don't hang around too long. I have noticed a fair few sell within days of going on sale (or not even getting to the advertising stage).

Whilst the price/value is in it's current place i see that trend continuing - an Elan is often (but not always) a second car, and their prices are not ridiculous for a 'toy', so also appeal to the impulse purchaser as well as the afficionado.

As scarcity increases, and cars are improved by their owners, values will rise and many of us have no intention of ever getting rid of our cars - whatever the money - as so much time and effort has been expended that they wouldn't be replacible.

In a few years' time it will change again, with some people wanting/needing to release the cash equity which they have gained in their cars, and by that time there will be less buyers as they will cost too much for an impulse purchase, and the market will have a higher number of more expensive cars advertised!

There are still 'project' cars, 'cheap' cars and 'value' cars out there - but the trick is getting to it before someone else does....

....the biggest issue seems to be where a prospective purchaser 'wants' something specific as will not deviate. I'm not saying that is a bad thing - but it does limit your options.

There are just not enough low mileage S2 NMY cars for sale within 30 miles of everyones' house.

For me (and maybe I'm the one out of step), colour is well down the list of 'needs' on a second-hand car - it's all about condition. If you really want an S2, then fine, they are a tad different from an SE, and a tad newer - but not really enough to warrant a huge price/desirability issue (i do like the wheels though - but not at the silly money which some people seem prepared to pay for them).

Most of the earlier cars have already had their wishbones replaced with new ones, so that isn't so much of an issue either.

A mechanically good SE (or S2 in the 'wrong' colour) is a better bet than a re-sprayed 'dog' which looks shiney but needs lots of work {unless you only go short distances and then polish it - each to their own}.

When you can get a car re-painted for less than the price of a 'B+C' service, some sellers would rather try to hide what they are selling behind the shine.

However, for the price of that service, plus a set of shock absorbers, tyres, hood seals and brake overhaul/upgrade you can get a good re-spray (with colour change).....

.... all of a sudden that 'tatty' looking Elan in the 'horrible' colour but with FSH and well maintained, can look like a sensible purchase. (but only for those in it for the longer haul - not the 'use it for a couple of months and move it on' speculator).
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby Kathryn » Sun 07.06.2015, 12:36

Well said Dave, as usual!
I forgot to mention I got new tyres and refurbished the wheels too, and still intend to get new alarm and brakes but it still all comes to a total of less than £7000. I agree those cars appear to be overpriced and also agree you'd be better off buying a cheaper one and improving it yourself. But if your heart really is set on an S2 it's not impossible to get a decent one at a decent price (and maybe even in the colour you want if you're lucky like me!) Keep looking!
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby morciii » Sun 28.06.2015, 16:33

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... &logcode=p

Calypso pink Elan, Very tired looking, but £1750 with a years MOT. No affiliation.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby morciii » Wed 08.07.2015, 16:31

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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby GeoffSmith » Wed 08.07.2015, 19:50

morciii wrote:S2 number 762 on autotrader

Last seen with 92k in 2008.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby johnj » Wed 30.12.2015, 20:49

Hi All this car looks good value. anyone know anything about it
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby GeoffSmith » Wed 30.12.2015, 20:53

Last seen for sale in November 2014 for £5990 at Cherry Cars. Guess it hasn't sold yet.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby Sport Paolo » Fri 01.01.2016, 18:15

Now £4990
Surely a bargain for someone, given some of the crazy prices lately.
Looks in pretty good nick from the pix.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby dapinky » Sat 02.01.2016, 10:48

Looks okay to me (from the pics) - only observation being that the hood appears to be from an SE/NA, not an S2 (so I assume the original has been replaced with either a S/H unit or remade with the wrong pattern).
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby clemo » Sat 02.01.2016, 10:56

Sport Paolo wrote:Now £4990
Surely a bargain for someone, given some of the crazy prices lately.
Looks in pretty good nick from the pix.


I hear what you are saying BUT crazy asking prices seldom equal crazy achieved prices.
Decent cars that sold last year for "lower than most" prices where David JT's car and Graham medina s2.

They wanted to sell them and they sold them. Anyone can ask a high price and keep their car.

DEC > JAN .. has this guy realised he's going to hang to it for another 4 months before the sun comes out again . He's already had it for over 4 months ..

Maybe its dropping to the realistic winter price .
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby GeoffSmith » Sat 02.01.2016, 10:59

clemo wrote:
Sport Paolo wrote:Now £4990
Surely a bargain for someone, given some of the crazy prices lately.
Looks in pretty good nick from the pix.


I hear what you are saying BUT crazy asking prices seldom equal crazy achieved prices.
Decent cars that sold last year for "lower than most" prices where David JT's car and Graham medina s2.

They wanted to sell them and they sold them. Anyone can ask a high price and keep their car.

DEC > JAN .. has this guy realised he's going to hang to it for another 4 months before the sun comes out again . He's already had it for over 4 months ..

Maybe its dropping to the realistic winter price .


He's been selling it for at least 14 months.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby Rambo » Sat 02.01.2016, 11:23

dapinky wrote:Looks okay to me (from the pics) - only observation being that the hood appears to be from an SE/NA, not an S2 (so I assume the original has been replaced with either a S/H unit or remade with the wrong pattern).


Agreed - definitely not the original S2 hood which would have been on the Élan when it left Hethel :shock:
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby clemo » Sat 02.01.2016, 12:41

LOTUS ELAN FOR SALE N178 GRL. VEHICLE DESCRIPTION
This car is now on the market. We expect a high number of enquiries and a high number of queries. This document is to pre-empt some of those queries, by providing as much information as possible about the car.
It is a special edition Lotus Elan S2 M100. There were only 800 made. It is 20 years old. It has had a total of 7 registered keepers. The last registered keeper owned it from 20/10/2003 until September 2014. Since that time it has been a ‘project’ car in our hands and has had considerable spend on it in that time, as you will see from the service history summary. All records indicate that the recorded mileage is correct.
Restored examples of this model sell for around £12,000. This is not a restored example, and this is reflected in the price. A summary of desirable restoration work is given below. So this car will suit someone who wants to take it on as an ongoing project/fun car or indeed for someone who wants to restore it from day one. They are clearly collectable and so should be considered as an investment.
All documents are present, with the original book pack, with service record book. Some of the early life services are stamped and latter day services are recorded by hand, with the exception of work between October 2014 and today, which is mostly backed up with invoices. The car is HPI clear. It is quick and makes a nice noise!

xterior and interior condition
For a 20 year old car, the general condition of the exterior is quite good. Without going in to minute detail. I will describe the car as I see it. The bodywork is decent and bright. There is a patch on the bonnet where the lacquer has flaked off and there are some chips and light scratches. The wheels are bright and decent, with some kerb markings, but no significant flaking of paint. The hood cover was replaced at 01/08/2010 and the fabric is in good condition and the rear plastic window is neither opaque nor split. Like all Lotus Elan S2s the roof seals are not good, and water ingress is a common occurrence. To get this to be as water tight as possible, some replacement of roof rail seals will be required and although some of the parts are still available this work needs to be done by someone with experience and know-how. Probably the most significant area for restoration is the seats. The leather is tired and cracked, with some breaks in the stitching. A re-upholstering would be the only answer here. The electric door mirrors do not work. The heater is very weak but the engine temperature gauge shows a steady temperature.
RECORDED SERVICE HISTORY
16-08-95 First service at 978 miles
05-03-96 Service at 6186 miles
19-03-97 Service at 10,864 miles
06-02-98 Service at 14.500 miles + Dinol rust proofing re-treatment 30-03-99 Service at 17.060 miles
21-12-99 Service at 19.707 miles
04-05-00 Service at 20.275 miles + New cam belt
20-02-02 Service at 22.678 miles
01-08-03 Service at 34.627 miles
02-08-05 Service at 43,667 miles + new exhaust
02-08-06 Service at 48.441 miles
01-08-08 Service at 50,229 miles
02-08-09 Service at 52,001 miles
01-08-10 Service at 58.356 miles + new roof fitted
01-08-12 Service at 64,974 miles + New cam belt and brake master cylinder
01-08-13 Service at 69,116 miles + Turbo re-build
12-12-14 at 74,892 miles MOT, Complete new exhaust system, new cam angle sensor, 2 new tyres, CV boot. £ 1470.52
29-04-15 at 74,938 miles. Replaced heater valve, adjust timing and Turbo set up. £627.06 17-12-15 at 74,938 NEW MOT with no advisories.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby Sport Paolo » Sat 02.01.2016, 19:59

clemo wrote:
Sport Paolo wrote:Now £4990
Surely a bargain for someone, given some of the crazy prices lately.
Looks in pretty good nick from the pix.


I hear what you are saying BUT crazy asking prices seldom equal crazy achieved prices.
Decent cars that sold last year for "lower than most" prices where David JT's car and Graham medina s2.

They wanted to sell them and they sold them. Anyone can ask a high price and keep their car.

DEC > JAN .. has this guy realised he's going to hang to it for another 4 months before the sun comes out again . He's already had it for over 4 months ..

Maybe its dropping to the realistic winter price .


Of course, I agree. However, quite a few S2s have changed hands for more. I have no affiliation to the seller.
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby epipete » Mon 04.01.2016, 03:41

I gotta say that I quite like the text above, it doesn't really tell us much but it comes across as honest and legit - the proof of the pudding ....... though, and all that
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby chipp » Tue 29.03.2016, 22:34

92SE written off
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91SE sold
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby SimonR » Wed 30.03.2016, 09:18

N178 GRL - the one for sale at Cherry's is now sold apparently ....
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby clemo » Wed 30.03.2016, 12:10

SimonR wrote:N178 GRL - the one for sale at Cherry's is now sold apparently ....


I hope this one makes it back .... it was looking pretty tired and very mouldy 9 months ago , But us lotus lot like a challenge and this looked like a moderate amount of TLC will bring it back ...

good luck new owner . hope we get to see you and it on here soon .
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Re: ALL ELANS IN AUTOTRADER

Postby Kipperozzy » Fri 22.04.2016, 08:11

The red one with 56 k was sold earlier this week on eBay by another garage for more than its being advertised here :shock:
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