Jackonicko wrote:I'm always surprised that that principle of need over stockpiling isn't always uppermost in Group buys and sales on this forum, having missed out on things that I really needed when someone beat me to it, when all they needed was a 'just in case' spare.
In this case, I have a repaired but weeping split in mine (as Bob Brown can confirm!), though naturally there may be people whose oil pans are more damaged, and I'd naturally be happy to see them take priority.
This raises a number of points - some worthy of addressing, and some totally subjective - all of which does nothing for the thread, but as i believe it is more of a wish list than a firm group buy, i don't care if i take it off topic (just a bit)
Jon,
I truely believe that the majority of LEC members also accept that there are people in NEED, and they should take precedence over those that WANT - sometimes it is less of an issue than others, for a variety of reasons.......
consider this a minute, if there is an unlimited supply, and the buy is arranged to merely bring the price down, there is never a problem.
However, there are a couple of times when it may cause an issue....
consider things like the recent buy for an areal - it is accepted that this buy will (most likely) make the item totally obsolete from the factory - they ain't gonna re-stock are they!!!! but it is the sort of item that you could manage without, use a different one, or possibly get because someone (
) picked up a couple for Justin from the original aftersales event, and may know where he can lay his hands on one.
Next, consider the oil pan (and i fully accept your NEED for this item, from posts i have seen you make previously) - no-one knows if there are ANY of these anywhere, or if so, how many - so it is difficult to try and assess any priority...... We also accept that once these (if any) are gone, then that is it - full stop.
As such, part of me says "get one while you can, 'cos when they're gone, you may hit a brick in the road", but then i already have a spare (sort of) in that i have a spare engine, so i don't NEED one.
The reality is, that if i bought one, then there is a good chance that i'd store it for a couple of years then end up selling it on at cost price to a LECer in need, but at least the karma stays in the green range of the scale. For any who doubt my integrity on this, and feel that i might be wanting to make a couple of bucks by abusing my position, i can provide details of everything i currently stock, and if you can demonstrate a NEED, you can have it for what it owes me, even if i feel i might want it in the future.
Anyone who was at the original aftersales event will tell you that EVERYONE who was there on that first "Owners Club" day worked on the same principle, with LEC/LEF members all happily swapping places in the queue, and moving stock about so we all got a fair shout and no-one went home in NEED when someone else had something IN CASE.
Also, at the Evora Launch event at Hethel, Nige, myself, Monty, Gareth, Geoff and others all got whatever we thought others may NEED, as well as what we each wanted - as such, i have been able to supply cam covers, deck seals and other 'obsolete' parts to a few people, we did this purely to avoid them getting into the hands of people who are open dealers (and i have nothing against them, it is their business, and i accept that they may need to have capital tied up for a while, and still need to make a profit), and also anyone else who may fancy sticking them on flea-bay at a huge markup, or worse still, offering them on THIS site at stupid prices, and expect ME not to make a reply.
Then there is the issue of 're-manufactured and/or fabricated items" - when does a desire to improve what we already have (and it still works), become a "need"?? - usually 10 minutes after getting the failure sheet at the MOT, i would suggest. But does that mean you can ask to be upgraded in any list? or that the organiser should take half a day off work to make you a new "Overvalve flange grommit"?
Most of us would recognise it as a need not because it failed an MOT, but because it could be a danger if left (not necessarily the same!!!), and would relinquish a place in a queue/list accordingly.
But what would then happen if the material price went up before the second batch were made up, and the good sole who let his bits go, now gets stung for an extra fiver? - and don't say it would never happen, and we'd all be gentlemen, 'cos i can tell you it has happened, and not everyone was a gentleman (or lady), and as a result, many people were quite a few quid out of profit - but notably, still try their b est to help out everyone else - such is the general spirit of this forum.
Well, thats my rant/rave over - nowt to do with this wish list, but who cares
Posted: Fri 25.06.2010, 13:22
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