NEED CO2 EMISSIONS SPEC SHEET FOR SE TURBO!!!

[nissias]

Hi all!
I need a spec sheet for the Elan SE Turbo that tells the C02 Emissions value for my car. The government needs to see this before registering my car otherwise they won't.
SOMEONE PLEASE PROVIDE ME A LINK!

[nissias]

Something to show proof of the emissions that this car has!

[Sy V]

Take it to an MOT test station and have them print one out.

[nissias]

They want something official. The car already passed the MOT test and the emissions are really low as with all Elans. But the government won't accept that. They want official values from something like a spec s**t from Lotus or a reviewer, magazine, newspaper etc etc
Anything would do!

[GeoffSmith]

As Sy suggests, the new MOT certificate should come with the results of the CO test results but also states the maximum figure (3.5%). This data is taken from the governments own database - how much more official can you get than that?

[nissias]

they are just stupid in Cyprus.
The car passed the MOT test and it would even pass the test for catalytic cars! They said that they will search the internet to find the emissions value but I doubt they will find anything.

[GeoffSmith]

Why not get someone to post the values here?

[Enright]

Have you downloaded the service manual and looked for the recommended figures in that?

[DavidElena]

I'm not an expert on this issue but I believe vehicle CO2 emissions became an issue in the UK in 2001/2002 when company car tax rules were changed and then road fund licence (car tax) bands were introduced linked with the "authoritative CO2 emisson figure" of the vehicle.

Petrol (and most other petroleum based fuels) are mostly hydrocarbons (carbon and hydrogen). During combustion the carbon burns (oxidises) with oxygen to form CO2 (or CO if there is not enough oxygen) and the hydrogen burns to H2O (water). As most people are aware (apart from Americans) CO2 is a greenhouse gas which is contributing to global warming, extinction of species, destruction of the Planet, etc.

The change in UK taxation is therefore aimed at making it more financially attractive to buy and run cars with lower CO2 emission. The emission (usually expressed in g/km i.e. grams CO2 produced per kilometre travelled) is basically linked with the fuel economy of the vehicle which is why most reps now drive diesels to cut their company car tax bills.

However, I believe official calculation of authoritative CO2 emissions was only introduced in 2001 and for cars registered after 2001 should be on the V5 document. For these 'new' cars you can get the CO2 emission from www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk and for some older cars registered before 2001 the data (if supplied by the manufacturer) may be on the www.smmt.co.uk database (society of motor manufacturers and traders). Although the M100 Elan appears in the database there is no CO2 emission data available so I suspect, given the age of the vehicle, that no authoritative CO2 emission figure exists.

On the MOT emission sheet it quotes CO rather than CO2. CO is formed if there is insufficient oxygen available during combustion, I guess if the car is poorly tuned, problems with sensors, fuel injection, etc. CO is obviously a poison and will eventually kill you if the car is run in an unventilated space e.g. a closed garage. This is different to the CO2 emission though and CO should only be a few % of the total CO + CO2 emission.

As the g/km CO2 figure is basically linked with fuel economy it may be possible to calculate it approximately from the manufacturer economy figures (urban, extra uban, combined, etc). So far I haven't been able to find an official explanation of the calculation though, it may potentially be quite complex. I suspect a rough approximation can be made from finding a post 2001 car (petrol best) with similar economy figures (mpg) to the elan and assuming a similar g/km CO2 figure.

[nissias]

Have you downloaded the service manual and looked for the recommended figures in that?

Believe me there is absolute nothing about emissions!

[nissias]

I'm not an expert on this issue but I believe vehicle CO2 emissions became an issue in the UK in 2001/2002 when company car tax rules were changed and then road fund licence (car tax) bands were introduced linked with the "authoritative CO2 emisson figure" of the vehicle.

Petrol (and most other petroleum based fuels) are mostly hydrocarbons (carbon and hydrogen). During combustion the carbon burns (oxidises) with oxygen to form CO2 (or CO if there is not enough oxygen) and the hydrogen burns to H2O (water). As most people are aware (apart from Americans) CO2 is a greenhouse gas which is contributing to global warming, extinction of species, destruction of the Planet, etc.

The change in UK taxation is therefore aimed at making it more financially attractive to buy and run cars with lower CO2 emission. The emission (usually expressed in g/km i.e. grams CO2 produced per kilometre travelled) is basically linked with the fuel economy of the vehicle which is why most reps now drive diesels to cut their company car tax bills.

However, I believe official calculation of authoritative CO2 emissions was only introduced in 2001 and for cars registered after 2001 should be on the V5 document. For these 'new' cars you can get the CO2 emission from www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk and for some older cars registered before 2001 the data (if supplied by the manufacturer) may be on the www.smmt.co.uk database (society of motor manufacturers and traders). Although the M100 Elan appears in the database there is no CO2 emission data available so I suspect, given the age of the vehicle, that no authoritative CO2 emission figure exists.

On the MOT emission sheet it quotes CO rather than CO2. CO is formed if there is insufficient oxygen available during combustion, I guess if the car is poorly tuned, problems with sensors, fuel injection, etc. CO is obviously a poison and will eventually kill you if the car is run in an unventilated space e.g. a closed garage. This is different to the CO2 emission though and CO should only be a few % of the total CO + CO2 emission.

As the g/km CO2 figure is basically linked with fuel economy it may be possible to calculate it approximately from the manufacturer economy figures (urban, extra uban, combined, etc). So far I haven't been able to find an official explanation of the calculation though, it may potentially be quite complex. I suspect a rough approximation can be made from finding a post 2001 car (petrol best) with similar economy figures (mpg) to the Elan and assuming a similar g/km CO2 figure.

I am clueless on what to do!

[mikeydude]

As stated above, the goverment publish a list of emission specs that cars have to conform to.

The elan is listed on this.

I am assuming you want to register a car in Cypus?

Then someone here needs to send you the goverment specs that are supplied to MOT test stations.

I have a friend that works at a MOT certified garage.....do you wnat me to ask him for information?

[nissias]

yeah man that would be great!
as long as it tells above that it is for the elan se turbo that would do the job
cheers!

[Mperx]

Hi all,

Is there an update on this? I would be helpful to other if data/doc were made available.

Thanks