Restriction in Peco exhaust

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Restriction in Peco exhaust

Postby holty » Tue 06.03.2007, 21:21

Has anyone put a restriction in a Peco exhaust to counter the effect's of over boost cut off? I've got a Everest fitted also, but i get cut out after prolonged acceleration. Porting the wastegate is a bit beyond my skill's so i was wondering if someone has had a go at a restriction? Cheers's Holty :D
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Postby ailwyn » Tue 06.03.2007, 21:38

Have not done this myself as I have a pre-cat to keep it all in check :D

I do have recollections of somebody saying that just putting a gasket in the exhaust with a reduced diameter will slow the exhaust down enough to stop the overboost.

I think most have gone down the porting route... again not done this myself, but it looks straightforward (even if it also looks like hard work).

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Postby GeoffSmith » Tue 06.03.2007, 22:08

ailwyn wrote:Have not done this myself as I have a pre-cat to keep it all in check :D

So have I, but it doesn't work for me!

ailwyn wrote:I do have recollections of somebody saying that just putting a gasket in the exhaust with a reduced diameter will slow the exhaust down enough to stop the overboost.

A 2" diameter gasket IIRC. I don't know if this has been proven however and I wouldn't expect it to last too long.

ailwyn wrote:I think most have gone down the porting route... again not done this myself, but it looks straightforward (even if it also looks like hard work)

And some of us haven't yet, although I finally got the lower heatshield bolt released.


Porting the wastegate is the best solution as it matches the wastegate to the turbo's increased performance. As Ailwyn says, the process is fairly straightforward and has been well documented; the biggest problem is probably cracking the nuts/bolts.
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Postby Enright » Wed 07.03.2007, 00:37

Yes.
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Postby ailwyn » Wed 07.03.2007, 00:45

Enright13 wrote:Yes.


Wow... that's an enlightening response :D
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Postby GeoffSmith » Wed 07.03.2007, 00:49

What's the point in wasting words when a load of bollecks have already spoken? :-D
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Postby ailwyn » Wed 07.03.2007, 00:55

Geoff

Are you sure your pre-cat is still stuffed and that the wastegate is opening fully?

Mine has got the everest and peco but only puts out 10bhp above stock - 165 total (as tested on Peco's rolling road), which I put down to the pre-cat being a restriction, which reminds me I haven't nagged Peco Dave about the sportcat for a while :D

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Postby Enright » Wed 07.03.2007, 08:40

ailwyn wrote:
Enright13 wrote:Yes.

Wow... that's an enlightening response :D

geoffsmith wrote:What's the point in wasting words when a load of bollecks have already spoken? :-D

Well I suppose I could have just put :agree: (which would have been even less typing!), but I hoped that you'd spot from the POV of someone who had actually DONE the jobs, that the above was spot-on! :D
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Postby holty » Wed 07.03.2007, 12:20

Geoffsmith, does your car still reach cut off even with the pre cat still on? I've a spare and was going to put this back on to help cure the problem!
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Postby GeoffSmith » Wed 07.03.2007, 14:29

holty wrote:Geoffsmith, does your car still reach cut off even with the pre cat still on? I've a spare and was going to put this back on to help cure the problem!

I'm afraid it does. :cry:

It's also been through an MOT so I'm assuming that there is something inside it. That is one of the reasons I was warning that the gasket fix may not be proven as the pre-cat will privide a lot more restriction, closer to the turbo than a thin gasket; it may be an urban myth or someone may have been lucky if they were marginally overboosting.

Let us know how you get on.

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Postby holty » Wed 07.03.2007, 19:46

It's a job that's well down on my list, and it's also sounding like it may have to be quite a restriction, but at some point i'll have to sort it. I'll let you know. Holty :)
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Postby holty » Thu 08.03.2007, 22:15

Do'es anyone know where the write-up for porting the wastegate is? Might have to give it a go. Cheers Holty :D
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Postby Enright » Thu 08.03.2007, 23:25

The write-up that I did was in the Stiffy thread from here onwards - hope it helps.
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Postby holty » Fri 09.03.2007, 13:45

Thanks :)
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Re: Restriction in Peco exhaust

Postby nitroman » Mon 18.05.2009, 22:17

holty wrote:Has anyone put a restriction in a Peco exhaust to counter the effect's of over boost cut off? I've got a Everest fitted also, but i get cut out after prolonged acceleration. Porting the wastegate is a bit beyond my skill's so i was wondering if someone has had a go at a restriction? Cheers's Holty :D


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This is not as good/complete a solution as porting the wastegate, but it sure is easier. It is only a sensible solution if you are just barely touching the cutoff, but not if you far exceed it.
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