Second Hand Wheel Prices

[Andy_R]

In reasonable condition, what sort of price do S1 and S2 wheels go for?

[theelanman]

s2 wheels are like the preverbial rocking horse do do...
s1s you can have new or ferubished.....saw a set that needed a bit of work on ebay went for £70 a couple of days ago..(some guy had bought them for a 'trike project' he was working on!!.....seen the oz wheels in good nick go for £400...seen S2 bbs wheels go for £600.....
if youve got a set to p/x then see the south west lotus centre or willb
probably the best bet at the moment
cheers
G

[Monty]

No such thing as s1

SE- i would say £150 to £250 max
S2- £500 to £600
Then u`ve got the fed spec which are 16" and can pic these up from SW lotus brand new with tyres £500. If u`r going to stoneleigh u may beable to pick them up there if u pre order them

[Andy_R]

I suppose I use S1 as an easy way of refering to 'pre-S2' cars given that they don't have a distinguishing title.

Thanks for the help.

[Monty]

given that they don't have a distinguishing title.
Thanks for the help.

Whats the SE for then

strange

[Andy_R]

SE denotes turbo from the first production run.

[Monty]

So SE = a distinguishing title

[Andy_R]

Hmmm...yes.

The distinguishing title to which I refered was for the production run '89-'92 in its entirety, for which there is none.

The point of using 'S1' was to refer to the '89-'92 production run without differentiating between turbos and non-turbos, there being no reason given that I believed there to be no difference between the wheels (not knowing much about wheels, that may or may not be the case).

'SE' may be a distinguishing title of one description, but not one that distinguishes between '89-'92 cars and S2 cars.

Hope that clears things up -if not, we could just have an arm wrestle.

[Jackonicko]

£250?

Which one is filled with gold sovereigns?

That's optimistic pricing, chum!

I've bought sets for £140 and £121 (for me and a friend - not for a bizarre eight wheeler!) and in better nick than those.

[RayD]

This refers to a set of tyres for sale, since moved.

[Jackonicko]

I'm after more wheels, so I've been monitoring prices.

£20 might well be too low for those wheels, in my opinion.

If you're serious about selling, and want to do so quickly, then drop me a PM, but I'll be honest, I'm after a bargain and someone else may pay more.

On eBay recently there have been some for sale at £75 per pair with decent tyres. There were five sets, but I don't think they sold, though.

A set of four went for £80 with middling tyres recently - I'd forgotten when they ended and didn't bid.

There's a set (one rimmed) without tyres still hanging around at £0.01.

I'd say that £120.00 or so is at the top of the going rate for wheels, right now, unless they're unmarked.

Yours do look good, and with Michelins.

You might get more if you take them, get them balanced, and can then say 'checked and balanced by **** tyres" or whatever.

But you may not!

Good luck, whatever you decide.

[MattDon]

the 5 sets are mine and none have sold yet but there is a fair bit of interest since i posted them on here, i do think £75 a pair with good tyres is VERY cheap but im strapped for cash and need them sold. £250 seems reasonable to me, they do look it good condition.

[RayD]

Thank you Matt.

Ray

[Jackonicko]

Matt,

Perhaps if you answered e-mail queries you might have sold at least one pair!

Ray,

Matt's found it hard selling tyres at a price equivalent to £150 per set.

I've bought wheels better than yours (refurbed, but with worse tyres) for £140, and similar wheels with worse tyres for £120.

Sets of four with wheels and tyres have sold for as little as £70 and £80 on the bay during my brief period of Elan ownership.

How much extra do you think two pairs of good (but used) Michelins (MXXs and Pilots - not four matched tyres) add to the value of your wheels, over and above what you'd pay for rattier tyres? How many people buy second hand tyres?

£10 more per wheel? £20?

You might be lucky and find a desperate mug who will pay £250, or you may find (as I suspect) that they're worth £160-200.

[WillB]

The poor guys are just trying to sell some wheels!!

Ray, stick them in the parts for sale section on here.

They're worth whatever someone wants to pay for them, if that figure is acceptable to the seller they'll sell, if not they wont!

[MattDon]

well ive clearly missed something

[dapinky]

Jon (jackonicko),

You clearly feel the need to push all prices down, what with your efforts on here, and elsewhere stating that white elans are (seemingly) worth bu66er all!

As others have said, anything is worth what someone is willing to pay on the day.

Using your logic, SE wheels are worth between sweet FA and £40 a set......

I had a set 'thrown in' when we bought the red car, and i purchased another set of 4 for £40.

However, i am unlikely to be that lucky again, so would feel that Ray is asking what he considers to be a fair price.....

as with everything, the published price isn't necessarily what the purchaser eventually parts with (as you found when you bought your elan!), and I'm sure that if there is room for movement, then a deal could be struck.

I just urge you NOT to drag prices down to what you are happy with, or come the glorious day when yours gets nicked, i'm sure that you'll be the first to claim a 'replacement' value from the insurers, not the price you have seen others go for

[Jackonicko]

Of course, if I have anything to sell, then I'll hope that it will be worth more than i paid for it. That's human nature.

I judge what something is worth by what someone will pay for it, and a good guide to that is what recent achieved prices have been (not asking prices, as you point out). That goes for wheels, and it goes for cars, and it was looking at achieved prices over a long period that led me to the conclusion that white cars sell for cheaper prices than some other cars that are otherwise equivalent.

I'm not trying to drag down prices - especially not of items that I don't personally need (one Elan with four wheels on it, and four wheels in the garage is four more wheels than I need, ultimately). Self interest should be driving me to talk up wheel prices, as I'll eventually have four to sell!

But if wheels are going for £70-150 per set, and if pairs of tyres are slow to shift at £75, then that's what I'd say was a good guide to what wheels are worth. More if they have just been refurbed, obviously, or if they have a brand new set of matching tyres. I'm not trying to drag prices down, I'm just trying to give an accurate answer.

And accurate answers can be very helpful, sometimes. If you're trying to sell something and you ask too much for it, then you can wait forever to get a buyer. And if you're a buyer and don't know what something is actually worth, you can end up spending far more than you need to.

And I do think that over-inflated prices for both parts and Elans are generally a bad thing, since they make it more likely that cheap cars will be broken for spares (rather than enjoyed by less affluent owners) and they make the Elan more expensive to own than it needs to be.

I didn't buy my Elan as an investment, and I enjoy it so much that I'd love to see more cars being owned by people who'd enjoy them. Seeing scarcity drive up its value, (and compromise the type's affordability) would be in my own narrow self interest, of course, but would be rather sad, I think. I am a bit of a weirdo, however, and have given away an Audi Coupe and two MGBs to good, deserving homes rather than selling them.

People out there who can't afford Elans are buying MGFs and MX-5s, you know, poor things. High prices won't help them see the light.

If my Elan is stolen, I'm resigned to the fact that I'll lose out. The purchase price plus what I've spent on it totals more than it's worth in today's market, but it's been worth it to me. (It sounds as though you know what I paid, but with hundreds of pounds of window work needed imediately, dead fans and a dying clutch I paid too much!) It certainly won't be a glorious day, and I'll expect bags of sympathy. But if the market continues to decline, replacing it shouldn't be too painful, I hope.