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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Fri 02.10.2009, 17:24

The garage has reset the ECU and it is the same...He has told me to go to Noble motor sport in Chesterfield as they can rolling road it and boost it up and check what it is. He said he has used them in the past and they are spot on???

Is the coil pack easy to replace?

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Re: Injectors

Postby Specky » Fri 02.10.2009, 17:30

two coils bolted on to a base plate...

They take 15 mins to remove both coils from the base plate and start the car back up.

you don't have to drain down the coolant, just upbolt the back of the expansion tank and push the bottle out the way.

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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Fri 02.10.2009, 17:37

In your opinion do you think it is the coils or am i just throwing good money after bad....What would you do??

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Re: Injectors

Postby Specky » Fri 02.10.2009, 17:45

Can you drive the car?

Could you get to the Malvern show?

I'd borrow some coils from some one localish and see if it cures the problem. (Plea for help)

If the coils are OEM, they will eventually need replacing, but they are expensive, especially in this country.

Tough call...

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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Fri 02.10.2009, 17:53

Yes off boost the car drives perfect...When is the Malvern show?? SJ have the coil for £57.98 is there just one or one for each bank?

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Re: Injectors

Postby Specky » Fri 02.10.2009, 18:05

Tannerman wrote:Yes off boost the car drives perfect...When is the Malvern show?? SJ have the coil for £57.98 is there just one or one for each bank?

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viewforum.php?f=114

There are two coils.

Most people now use atlanticspeed and get some blaster coils...

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Re: Injectors

Postby Specky » Fri 02.10.2009, 18:08

see this thread...

viewtopic.php?f=85&t=4787

I ordered mine seperate to the group buy.... and got a free T-shirt

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Re: Injectors

Postby Specky » Fri 02.10.2009, 18:14

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Re: Injectors

Postby dapinky » Fri 02.10.2009, 18:49

John,

You have PM
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Re: Injectors

Postby tigerdog » Sat 03.10.2009, 00:35

I second Specky - check plugs, wires and coils. It's difficult to assess the quality of these components by eye. "Fine when cold" means "fine when boost is restricted" because the Elan will not reach full boost until it reaches operating temp. The mixture also leans out as it warms. These things combine to make it more difficult for the spark to jump the plug gap. If there's an easier place for the arc to jump, it will. Making matters worse, the Elan has a waste-spark system; plugs fire (and misfire) in pairs, making a misfire situation feel very bad indeed. I found Smaug would misfire under boost if the plugs were mis-gapped; a bad coil and plug wire practically put the car out of business.
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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Sat 03.10.2009, 08:08

Thanks Tiger, We have replaced the plugs....When the car is warm and on the road under load it splutters but not when idling or revving at a stand still.

The plugs after a run are all the same colour, What ever is breaking down is not getting any worse at the moment...If the coil pack went would it just "go" or would it be an intermitant fault (under boost).

Andy P had suggested it could be the fuel rail...Any other suggestions on this??

When i get the car back on Monday i think i will Video exactly what is happening from start to finnish and post it here, I am sure someone will have had this problem before and a video will show what is happening.

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Re: Injectors

Postby Specky » Sat 03.10.2009, 09:04

When the coils go, it's an intermittent fault that gets worse.

AndyP could be correct about the fuel rail, but it's a less likely fault. (or it could be the pump)

You've got to take a pragmatic approach before delving a little deeper.

In reality it could be anything.

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Re: Injectors

Postby dapinky » Sat 03.10.2009, 11:57

You have another PM :wink:
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Re: Injectors

Postby BFG in the BRG » Sat 03.10.2009, 16:15

I've got a set of stock used coils you can try - they were working perfectly when I swopped them following the MSN coilpack group buy.

I was going to put them on fleabay sometime - drop us a PM if you want them.

If they are no use to you/when you are finished with them, put them on ebay and send us whatever you get.
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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Sat 03.10.2009, 19:34

Many thanks BFG, i have had a PM from Dave who has some coming over to me to try...Fingers crossed that this will be the problem and i can have some "winter" fun.

Many thanks for your kind offer

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Ps is this a sign of old age, 7.30 and sat at the computer :shock:
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Re: Injectors

Postby BFG in the BRG » Sat 03.10.2009, 21:06

Ps is this a sign of old age, 7.30 and sat at the computer


Nope I think it is a sign of GMT - either that or LEC is being inclusive and very European :D .
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Re: Injectors

Postby dapinky » Mon 05.10.2009, 17:01

John,

Just to let you know, the box went off today by Royal Mail..........



......so should arrive by Christmas :-D
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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Mon 05.10.2009, 22:15

Cheers mate...thought i had found the problem tonight but it is the same..

The air intake from the turbo was loose at the air filter side and the plastic pipe that press fits into the air box had distorted allowing air through, I sorted this and clamped the pipe up tight but the same...BOOO hoooo

Will keep you informed of my plight.

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Re: Injectors

Postby Enright » Tue 06.10.2009, 17:30

Don't mess around with anything else until you have tried replacing the coil packs.

I would put money on at least one pair being on it's way out, so the other won't be far behind.

If you upset anything else there is every chance that by the time you've sorted this problem you'll have created another.

PS you ought to update your profile with your location as only this thread says where you're from, and if you post for help in any others people won't remember and will just keep asking (unless you've got a particular reason for keeping it a secret)! :)
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Re: Injectors

Postby Tannerman » Tue 06.10.2009, 18:45

Well that has told me...I will keep my fingers off till the coils arrive :shock:

I have updated my profile now so my cover is blown.

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