Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby Monty » Sun 19.10.2008, 23:54

ailwyn wrote:
lotos wrote:Matt - yep I sold you the kit and then (finally) found my Elan... life is funny ain't it?


Like I said, my kit will be available shortly if your interested.

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Seems i have to repeat myself :roll:

He`s already found a kit :roll:
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby ailwyn » Mon 20.10.2008, 08:30

Monty wrote:
ailwyn wrote:
lotos wrote:Matt - yep I sold you the kit and then (finally) found my Elan... life is funny ain't it?


Like I said, my kit will be available shortly if your interested.

Ailwyn


Seems i have to repeat myself :roll:

He`s already found a kit :roll:


And would lotos be the only one allowed to read this thread? :roll: If he ain't interested then someone else might be! :roll:
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby Monty » Mon 20.10.2008, 13:13

ailwyn wrote:
Monty wrote:Seems i have to repeat myself :roll:

He`s already found a kit :roll:


And would lotos be the only one allowed to read this thread? :roll: If he ain't interested then someone else might be! :roll:


Whats that got to do with it :smt017

Your question was a aimed at Lotos and i only answered that he`s found a kit, then you`ve repeated the same thing again so i repeated my answer again :roll:

Just maybe if you put it in the For Sale section you might get more interest, as i recall thats what that whole section is all about :smt044
or stick them on ebay :poke: :wink:


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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby ailwyn » Mon 20.10.2008, 14:44

Monty wrote:Just maybe if you put it in the For Sale section you might get more interest, as i recall thats what that whole section is all about :smt044
or stick them on ebay :poke: :wink:


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It seems that you're not the only one that has to repeat themselves... they are not for sale yet, but will be shortly. :roll: :poke: :-D
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby nitroman » Sun 26.10.2008, 17:56

Photos of my newly arrived 6811 calipers, the pistons, and where the part number resides (by the fluid inlet). These are 37% larger than the 6806 and 15% smaller than the 6816.
I've ordered some shinier zinc paint than the usual dull grey zinc stocked locally. When that arrives I'll paint the rotors and get down to business, also installing the PCE (now that's a job!!).

For comparison, here are the 6806 & 6816 calipers respectively, as posted by Paul "web-toes" Webster, a man with no proven mob affiliation.
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby algirdas » Tue 28.10.2008, 05:15

Dear Matt:

How did you decide to go with the 6811s versus the 6806s?

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby Doc Fizzix » Tue 28.10.2008, 05:38

:shock:

DAM! I just read this thread for the first time (a little late) Oh well, Matt sad it best "shite happens" :cry:

I have 6816 :cry:
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby algirdas » Tue 28.10.2008, 06:32

Dear Al:

I too have a set of 6816s on my car and a set of 6806s waiting to go on after Tuesday's club meeting. But don't despair, I understand that the 6816s clean up nicely and can be given out as Christmas presents.

Kidding aside, I am taking Geoff's post on this subject quite seriously. Though I have yet to experience rear end lightness, I also have yet to really romp on the brakes in a turn. I am putting the 6806s on mainly for experimentation so as to get things right for my wife's car. In the final analysis, I expect to have a pair of 6816s as garage art or my first selling adventure on eBay.

Also, I'm sorry to hear about your friend down in Evant. I'll give you a call tomorrow.

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby nitroman » Tue 28.10.2008, 06:50

Algirdas,
A direct jump to my answer here: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=12651&p=174472&hilit=only+AND+reason+AND+6811#p174472

Now that it is available, it turns out the 6811 is the only one of the three front calipers acceptable for use with BB's rear-brake upgrade. The combination of 6811-front/BB-rear has a total brake fluid requirement less that of the 6816 alone, whilst the 6806-front/BB-rear results in a "dangerous" rear brake bias. The 6816-front/BB-rear may move too much brake fluid than the master cylinder will allow.
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby Doc Fizzix » Tue 28.10.2008, 06:52

algirdas wrote:Also, I'm sorry to hear about your friend down in Evant. I'll give you a call tomorrow.


Now you have me scared? What is going on? PM me
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby algirdas » Tue 28.10.2008, 06:59

Dear Alden:

I forwarded to you an e-mail that I received from a fellow LOCO member earlier today.

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby Doc Fizzix » Tue 28.10.2008, 07:14

algirdas wrote:Dear Alden:

I forwarded to you an e-mail that I received from a fellow LOCO member earlier today.

Sincerely,

Algirdas


This was sad news. Frank was a great guy and always willing to help out. He was just at my house two weeks ago. I will call Sports Car World tomorrow and offer to help them anyway I can. If you have a link so I can read up please forward :cry:
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby theelanman » Fri 18.12.2009, 13:19

so whats the score with the calipers then......
Ive got 120-6816 on at the moment and yes Ive got long pedal travel.....Im gonna change em I think....
do I go the 6806 route or the 6811 route??....
thoughts.....???

I was just going to do the 6806...but then I spotted we've got the 6811 as another choice....what about dust seals..???? do we have any with seals??...

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby ailwyn » Fri 18.12.2009, 13:31

G,

They are all essentially the same caliper with different sized pistons, so no dust seals.
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby theelanman » Fri 18.12.2009, 13:41

ailwyn wrote:G,

They are all essentially the same caliper with different sized pistons, so no dust seals.


didnt doug or bob look into an option for brians kit that did have seals???....

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby ailwyn » Fri 18.12.2009, 13:46

I think the conclusion was that dust seal calipers would foul the wheel, because the body is (more than?) a few mm bigger to accommodate the seal.
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby theelanman » Fri 18.12.2009, 13:51

ailwyn wrote:I think the conclusion was that dust seal calipers would foul the wheel, because the body is (more than?) a few mm bigger to accommodate the seal.


cool.....so 6806...or 68011......just gotta decide if Im ever gonna do the bob brown rear brake upgrade......

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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby tigerdog » Fri 18.12.2009, 15:56

Be advised, Wilwood is slowly phasing out the 68xx parts and replacing them with 97xx BUT the calipers are of slightly different dimension. If you want 68xx, better to make the move sooner rather than later. That said, I followed Bob Brown's maths and selected the 6806 (well, 9703, the 6806 replacement but that causes other issues so go with the 6806 for a bolt-up replacement.) They do stop - hard - but require lots of pedal effort to do so. Personally, I like this much better because it gives finer control. If you're looking for less pedal effort, the 6811s will do that but the pedal travel will be longer than with 6806s, much less than the 6816s.
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby theelanman » Fri 18.12.2009, 16:26

tigerdog wrote:Be advised, Wilwood is slowly phasing out the 68xx parts and replacing them with 97xx BUT the calipers are of slightly different dimension. If you want 68xx, better to make the move sooner rather than later. That said, I followed Bob Brown's maths and selected the 6808 (well, 9703, the 6808 replacement but that causes other issues so go with the 6808 for a bolt-up replacement.) They do stop - hard - but require lots of pedal effort to do so. Personally, I like this much better because it gives finer control. If you're looking for less pedal effort, the 6811s will do that but the pedal travel will be longer than with 6808s, much less than the 6816s.



ok now youve thrown the cat in....... whats the 6808 caliper????
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Re: Wilwood 16" kit caliper issues

Postby Elanlover » Fri 18.12.2009, 16:39

tigerdog wrote: ........(well, 9703, the 6808 replacement but that causes other issues so go with the 6808 for a bolt-up replacement.).......


What issues specifically?????
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